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Old 01-12-2009, 04:14 PM
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Default Should I take out my a/c?

I drive a 98 civic 4dr EX and I have been pondering whether or not to remove my a/c.

I believe it weighs around 40 lbs? Correct me if I am wrong.

I want to keep my car comfortable, so I am not planning to remove any interior, just some of the easy stuff.

I rarely/never use my a/c because I live in good old rainy cold Washington, and even in the summer there is no reason you cant just roll the windows down.

Is it a relatively easy job? And is it worth its weight to remove?

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NO!

because you car's still gonna be slow...
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Yea and sell me it if you don't want i made a mistake of ignoring the a/c option now i regret every minute of it . try driving with no A/C and on a day that's 100' .

P.s taking out your A/C isn't going to win you trophy's.
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Default Re: Should I take out my a/c?

believe it or not, 90% of the weight in an a/c system is usually the compressor.

in the end, removing it is usually a waste of time.
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Someone removed my a/c, the previous owner. He thought it would make or break a race, ha. I want it back

Don't remove it b/c when you go to sell your car, someone will want it.
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Do not remove it.....

Based on the purpose of your car, you have no reason to remove it. It's not going to make your car any faster. You may not always live in WA, or you may want to sell your car one day. A/C is an important selling point.

Don't do it......

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Good, exactly what I needed to hear.

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i removed mine, becuase i turbo'd it but i have no regrets lol.
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i removed mine, becuase i turbo'd it but i have no regrets lol.
shud up.
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i removed mine in my last hatch due to turbo, and its out of my coupe now due to h2b lol. It may not win races but if your doing a wire tuck, battery relocate, fuse box relocate, removing a/c is the only way to go for a clean "million dollar" bay haha
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Default Re: Should I take out my a/c?

Originally Posted by miguel329
i removed mine, becuase i turbo'd it but i have no regrets lol.
X3


this is why your car has windows lol
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Originally Posted by shocker911
X3


this is why your car has windows lol
x2 SHUD UP.

Ask him if he has turbo ? NOPE so stop whoring what you got idiots.
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Originally Posted by shocker911
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this is why your car has windows lol
Turbo or not, have you ever spent a summer in San Antonio?

I vowed that I will never have a daily driven car that has no A/C......

Especially on dates...
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To the guys that say get rid of it - do you drive your car when it's 90+ degrees outside? My last car (94 Accord EX) was the first car that I've ever had that had A/C in it. I used to say that A/C was worthless but after having it for a complete summer I won't ever go without it again. You can roll your windows down. I'll gladly enjoy my nice 65 degree interior where I'm not sweating my ***** off. Only exception to having A/C is if the car is convertible or a RACE car.

It's not going to make your car MUCH faster. The A/C system probably weighs about 40 pounds TOTAL. That includes the condenser, compressor, lines, receiver/dryer, and evaporator. To get the evaporator out you have to completely remove the dash, which can be a PITA. A/C doesn't draw power from the vehicle when you don't have it on because when it's not on the clutch on the compressor simply free-wheels until you engage it.

Also, when you do go to sell the car a working A/C system will generally up the value 1,000 dollars, especially for the people that want it. When you tell someone that it had A/C and you ripped it out, you're going to get some frowns and possibly lose the sale.
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Default Re: Should I take out my a/c?

ur just going to lose the value of ur car and not gain anything.
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its all strictly opinion, they're are those for it and against it. It can hurt and help the re-sell value depending your location and quality of work. If your in 90+degrees it might not be such a good idea, but if your from the east coats (like myself) its not really going to matter. Its true that you wont really gain any hp from it, because if its off then its just freely spinning. In the case of re-selling a car and value it can go like this: your buying a k20 or h2b eg, and its done right with good quality. Are you buying it for the a/c no, and if you ask him to go down on the price because of no a/c, he more than likely wont. Now if your buying a daily/something for you girl/ or just a nice honda with just a stock b swap (no offense to b series with my comparisons) then you probably looking for a/c so the seller will probably go lower if its been removed. Secondly now, you shouldnt always need to ask "should i do this or that to my car?", its your car do what you want with it, and if you dont plan on selling it anytime soon then x2 to do what you want
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Default Re: Should I take out my a/c?

Originally Posted by 4serioferio
Is it a relatively easy job?
Not too bad.

Originally Posted by 4serioferio
And is it worth its weight to remove?
No.
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if you do make sure to bleed of the pressure through the service ports!! Freon is harmful so try not to breath it
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Default Re: Should I take out my a/c?

just take the belt off.
bamm not loosing any power
and then when its 90+ throw it back on and your good to go.
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Default Re: Should I take out my a/c?

Originally Posted by 98civdx
just take the belt off.
bamm not loosing any power
and then when its 90+ throw it back on and your good to go.
You wont gain anything by removing the belt. the pulley on the A/C compressor just freewheels on a clutch, it takes pretty much zero effort to turn it when the A/C clutch is disengaged.
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Originally Posted by iliv2xlr8
Do not remove it.....

Based on the purpose of your car, you have no reason to remove it. It's not going to make your car any faster.
You may not always live in WA, or you may want to sell your car one day. A/C is an important selling point.

Don't do it......

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Thats just NOT true. It will make your car faster in two ways. First the weight loss and also the rotational weight loss. It takes away from your hp to move the compressor. The more mass an object has the greater the tendency to resist changes in its state of motion. Meaning more mass = less exceleration. In car and in belts driving the car.

And if you take it off just set it to the side for if you move or if you sell.
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do what u want
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do what u want
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The whole AC system isn't that heavy. I pulled the entire system out of a car to put into mine. The pump weighs maybe 10lbs, the lines and all the other stuff is aluminum so it doesn't weigh much. Plus, new compressors don't require nearly the power to turn them as the old piston pumps. If you're concernced about power, do as another person said and remove the belt. If it's the weight, you're probably like a lot of Americans and you could lose weight or remove more useless crap from the car instead of something pretty nice to have like AC.
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Default Re: Should I take out my a/c?

Seriously, does nobody understand that the A/C compressor draws no power for the engine until it's on? When the compressor isn't working, it's essentially the same thing as an idler pulley. The compressor clutch when not engaged simply free-wheels and draws NO energy. It's not until the clutch engages to the compressor that it draws power. Taking the belt off won't do anything at all.

And for the people say that remove it then reinstall when you want to sell the car, that's an absolute waste. First of all, the system needs to be discharged properly (unless you don't give a **** about the environment). After that, you can then disconnect all the A/C parts. What people don't understand is that when R134a mixes with moisture it turns into acid. A/C parts that were once oiled and charger with freon sitting in the open causes them to corrode very easily.


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