jdmTegraLs

OK im wanting to know which car i should get. My plans are to engine swap any of the cars. And should i do all motor or turbo? Which car is better to handle!?

92b16vx

92-95 vx or cx hatch, and a b series.As far as boost goes do you want to pay for it?It requires more cash and upkeep but will give the results you want if done right.

Replica

CRX, best project honda money can buy. I am still regretting my 5th gen coupe. I'm happy with it but CRX's

Zanpakuro

EG seats 4

Paranoid Android

eg

degooser

90-93 tegra ls.....boost that biatch.....you wont be unhappy.....

smnowell

Why don't you decide for yourself(this is NOT meant to sound like a jackass comment)? I don't want to be the one responsible for you getting a car that you don't like to drive. Personally, I think the EG is styled the best out of the three chassis you mentioned... and I think EG hybrids give you the least amount of headaches...but that is a matter of opinion.

kikiboi

well said.

GSR

CRX (if u could find a clean one). Also you cant go wrong with a EG

IhateMy93BlackHatch

I would say either the Crx and a swap or just get the Teg and go LsVtec. It's all depends on you, but if u want a nicer looking car go for the 92-95 hatch

chad

dude....it is your life....you are sometimes going to have to live your life how you want to and not how others percieve you!

jdmTegraLs

Yeah i think the hatchback is a good choice. i have 3G's to buy a car. So i think im wanting 2 get an Cx model and see what kind of motor i can get to be dropped in there. what motor should i get?


[Modified by jdmTegraLs, 8:27 AM 12/9/2002]

Jay-C

you have chosen wisely

[QUOTE]Yeah i think the hatchback is a good choice. i have 3G's to buy a car. So i think im wanting 2 get an Cx model and see what kind of motor i can get to be dropped in there. what motor should i get?

again money is goin to be a factor here...if you are strapped for cash then you could prob find a jdm b16a cheap that would work just fine. of course if money is no object you could go with an engine from an itr but in my humble opinion the money would be better spent on bolt-ons/head-work/tuning on the b16a....just my .02

92b16vx

If you've decided on the 5th gen,and wanna swap go with a bseries.As far as the cx personally I'd get the vx(tach,vtec,same weight as cx)if you can find one,If you can't afford a swap yet,go with the si,it will provide a decent ride till you can save up money.You can always strip out the extra weight if you need to.

jdmTegraLs

thanx guys!!

jdmTegraLs

umm not 2 be a stupid ***. but wants an (EG)?

92b16vx

chassis code for 92-95

Evil_Wizard

Wrong EG is the chasis code for Japanese Civic's and also I think US DelSol's The chasis code for 92-95 hatchbacks is EH2 and EH3.

SoulSurfer

I'd go with the 90-93 Integra just to be a little different. I want one for my daily driver.

92b16vx

Extremehybridhatch writes-{ Wrong EG is the chasis code for Japanese Civic's and also I think US DelSol's The chasis code for 92-95 hatchbacks is EH2 and EH3....}

EG is the chassis code for 92-95 civic in europe and japan,I live in europe and deal with the cars all the time I know what a EG is.EG 1-9 covers all trim levels to include hatchs,coupes,and 4 doors.



[Modified by 92b16vx, 7:21 AM 12/10/2002]

B18C5-EH2

Taken from another thread. This was posted by jdmTegraLs:

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(B18C5-EH2) i like your fake *** wanna be JDM corner lights... haha
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[Modified by jdmTegraLs, 11:08 AM 12/11/2002]

Just whatever you do don't put fake-*** Vision amber lenses on your hatch, right?



Perhaps you and I are getting off on the wrong foot? You for some reason felt it necessary to post that "flame" in another thread out of nowhere, so I feel like we should introduce ourselves, okay?

I'm Tom and I'm 23 years old. I've been into Hondas since I can remember and since I was 16 years old I've owned 3 Honda Civic hatches and also owned 3 different engine swaps.

I work at an Acura and Honda repair shop and I've personally done 5 engine swaps with handtools in my front yard. I have completely dissassemnled and reassembled a 1992 CX hatchback (the one you're making fun of because of my smart-choice "fake" amber lenses) so I know my way around the 1992-1995 Civics very well.

I'll try to overlook your error in trying to flame me out of nowhere just as long as you don't do it again, but if you continue to try and flame me I will make your stay here miserable and/or very short-lived. There is a wealth of information to be had here, and as long as you are respectful to others (especially the Moderator) I'm sure you'll really love this place.

Now onto your question:

1988-1991 CR-X, 1990-1993 Integra, or 1992-1995 hatch?

For me the chioce is very, very easy:

1992-1995 Civic hatch

Why?

I'll try to use more than just personal opinions on styling such as the 1992-1995 hatch is my all-time favorite Honda even though it is.

See I own a 1992 Civic Si hatch with a B16A2 swap, a 1992 CX hatch with a B18C5 swap, and also a 1990 Civic STD hatch that is stock (for now) that I've had in the family since I was 16.

In terms of ease of swapping over Integra parts and/or engine swaps, the 1992-1995 Civic wins hands down.

The 1988-1991 Civic and CR-X require a bolt-in mount kit to drop in a B-Series engine. This kit is about $425.00 and it only mounts the motor in the car. And the HASport mount kits have been known to break, and the other kits just plain suck. Place Racing's customer service is shitty and HCP's kit uses a front mount for "added strength" but the damn thing doesn't even fit! HAHA!

From there you will need to round up axles, shift linkage, a 1990-1993 Integra rear bracket, and various other doo-dads. I mean to say that you will not be able to buy a complete swap as easily (or at all) for the 1988-1991 Civic. Most of the good swaps for this car are the cable-trannied (yuck!) B16A "first-gen" motors that usually only come engine, tranny, and ECU because many exporters in Japan torch-cut all the mounting brackets and shift linkage that attach the motors to the JDM chassis due to time constraints. The "first-gen" B16A is the weakest B-Series VTEC motor, and the cable trannies are increasingly shittier as the years go by. due to age and the total lack of rebuild parts available in the U.S. You'll be hard-pressed to find a non-grinding tranny for these engines.

If you were to ever want the Intagra Type R brakes then they do not bolt right up to the 1988-1991 CR-X like they do any 1992-1995 Civic.

1994-up Integra seats also bolt right into the 1992-1995 Civic - not so with the 1988-1991 Civic or even the 1990-1993 Integra.

If you were to get a CX, VX, or even DX 1992-1993 hatch then I doubt you'll get any lighter with a 1988-1991 CR-X unless you get a 1988 HF or an early 1989 HF without the seatbelts in the actual doors. The later 1989-1991 CR-Xs had heavy-*** doors because the entir seatbelt assy was in them - CR-Xs aren't much lighter than the 1992-1993 CX, VX, or DX hatch. I'm saying 1992-1993 because they had only one airbag in them, thus making them lighter.

So why not a 1990-1993 Integra?

Besides styling opinions, there are facts that make this car less appealing to me than the 1992-1995 Civic.

Weight and limited choice of engine/tranny combos comes to mond first. The 1990-1991 Integra is pre-OBD like the 1988-1991 Civic/CR-X, meaning that you'll need the older, weaker first-gen B16A from Japan if you want a VTEC swap. Again they have the crap-cable tranny and in that heavier 1990-1993 Integra chassis the torque-less B16A might actually end up being less fun to drive than the torquier B18A that's stock. You can buy a first-gen B16A swap, but don't count on it outrunning any run of the mill 99-00 Civic Si coupe or any other VTEC Integras from 1994-2001.

As for the 1992-1993 Integra, it's a bit of a bastard stepchild in the Honda family. It was OBD1 which is great, but it still was stricken with the cable tranny.

This means that if you wanted a first-gen B16A because of the cable tranny you'll have to try and find an OBD1 ECU or convert it all back to pre-OBD - not fun.

There was a GS-R model offered in 1992-1993 that already had a B17A motor in it. 160hp 1.7L DOHC VTEC, but again they weren't all that quick.

The 1992-1995 Civic is the easiest chassis to swap in any 1994-up USDM B-Series swap and the OBD1 JDM swaps, as well as the H22A if you want to.

The B-Series swaps bolt right into any 1992-1995 Civic without the need for any mount kit. I've done it plenty on my own and have aided in over 40 B-Series swaps in the past 2 years at my shop, so I know the ins and outs of this swap and it is hands-down the easiest swap to do. All 1994-up Integra (including Type R) seats and suspension parts bolt right onto the 1992-1995 Civic - I have all GS-R stuff on my 1992 CX.

The 1992-1995 will be the easiest to upgrade, and it will be much lighter than the 1990-1993 Integra and probably even lighter than most CR-Xs too.

Does any of this make sense?

So if you're looking for a 1992-1995 hatch the only question left is, which one?

For you I'd say get a 1992-1993 DX.

Why?

You have $3,000.00 to spend.

Unless you want to work your *** off while trying to make grades in school, you probably won't be getting a swap any time soon, right? This means that you want to get the lightest, quickest stock hatch out there.

This would be the DX. It is just about as light as the CX and VX but has the better 102hp motor (as opposed to the CX 70hp and VX 92hp) and a better-geared tranny when compared to the CX and VX which have really long-*** gears and a shitty 3.25 final drive while the DX has a shorter final drive - this all means that the DX will stomp the **** out of a CX or VX.

Thsi also means that once you swap you'll be right there with the swapped CX and VX hatches too because the weight differences aren't that big.

If you don't mind the extra weight and you want the absoulte quickest 1992-1995 hatch, then get an Si hatch. 125hp 1.6L SOHC VTEC and a closer geared tranny with a 4.25FD means it hauls *** when compared to the other 1992-1995 hatches.

I still own a 1992 Si hatch, but I sold my old 1992 hatch because it was about 250lbs. heavier than the CX hatch I now have - the CX hauls much more *** tha the Si did just from the loss of 250lbs. alone.

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask, but remember that trial users only get 5 posts per day for 20 days - use them wisely.

Good luck.

B18C5-EH2

Well **** did I just end it straight up or what?

Jay-C

long post...good answer to the question at hand

EVIL Hx Coupe

hatch

92b16vx

It will never end.tomorrow someone will ask what car they should buy and what motor they should put in it,by the way I've said it before and I'm saying it again,yo ca is hella tyte!!!!