Short shifter vs. Stock shifter.
07-03-2007, 02:56 PM
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Short shifter vs. Stock shifter.
Some say Short shifters are better. (B&M/Sk2)
Some say Stock shifters are better. (ITR/GSR)
I know that short shifters help reduce throw reduction, but I heard it can cause miss shifts.. and can mess up the transmissions. And stock shifters are more precise in shifting.
Is it worth it to get a short shifter? Is it worth going from short shifter back to stock?
DUAL BEND OR SINGLE BEND?
Modified by l2al3l3it at 4:48 PM 7/3/2007
Some say Stock shifters are better. (ITR/GSR)
I know that short shifters help reduce throw reduction, but I heard it can cause miss shifts.. and can mess up the transmissions. And stock shifters are more precise in shifting.
Is it worth it to get a short shifter? Is it worth going from short shifter back to stock?
DUAL BEND OR SINGLE BEND?
Modified by l2al3l3it at 4:48 PM 7/3/2007
07-03-2007, 02:58 PM
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Re: Short shifter vs. Stock shifter. (l2al3l3it)
Shifters don't mess up transmissions, shifting like a dumbass does.
Changing shifter bushings and the shifter/**** simply changes feel.
it DOES provide shorter length in shift durations but the difference is minute.
Skunk2 shifter and **** combo IMO is the smoothest shifter feel i've even had.
i've had B&M, stock civic, GSR shifter, and some ebay brand shifter.
None stack up the the skunk2 dual bend.
IMO, Very worth it for an aftermarket shifter.
Changing shifter bushings and the shifter/**** simply changes feel.
it DOES provide shorter length in shift durations but the difference is minute.
Skunk2 shifter and **** combo IMO is the smoothest shifter feel i've even had.
i've had B&M, stock civic, GSR shifter, and some ebay brand shifter.
None stack up the the skunk2 dual bend.
IMO, Very worth it for an aftermarket shifter.
07-03-2007, 03:07 PM
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Re: Short shifter vs. Stock shifter. (l2al3l3it)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by l2al3l3it »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some say Short shifters are better. (B&M/Sk2)
Some say Stock shifters are better. (ITR/GSR)
I know that short shifters help reduce throw reduction, but I heard it can cause miss shifts.. and can mess up the transmissions. And stock shifters are more precise in shifting.
Is it worth it to get a short shifter? Is it worth going from short shifter back to stock?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wouldn't that in fact INCREASE the throw?
Anyway, its all in the way you shift. Don't shift like a retard, you won't mess up your transmission. Like EK said the throw reduction is minimal, its more goin to be a "feel improvement" especially if you have upgraded bushings. Yes, its worth it. No its not going to make your car more powerful.
Some say Stock shifters are better. (ITR/GSR)
I know that short shifters help reduce throw reduction, but I heard it can cause miss shifts.. and can mess up the transmissions. And stock shifters are more precise in shifting.
Is it worth it to get a short shifter? Is it worth going from short shifter back to stock?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wouldn't that in fact INCREASE the throw?
Anyway, its all in the way you shift. Don't shift like a retard, you won't mess up your transmission. Like EK said the throw reduction is minimal, its more goin to be a "feel improvement" especially if you have upgraded bushings. Yes, its worth it. No its not going to make your car more powerful.
07-03-2007, 03:17 PM
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nothing beats a dual bend SS...either from b&m, blox, or skunk2.
As for ruining the tranny, its really up to the driver. as you can see ^^^ em1_oosi and ek forever has explained it pretty well haha.
As for ruining the tranny, its really up to the driver. as you can see ^^^ em1_oosi and ek forever has explained it pretty well haha.
07-03-2007, 04:18 PM
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Re: (l2al3l3it)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by l2al3l3it »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Single or dual bend? </TD></TR></TABLE>
dual...if you have a 96-00 civic get a dual, if you have a teg or eg a single is'nt too bad.
dual...if you have a 96-00 civic get a dual, if you have a teg or eg a single is'nt too bad.
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Re: (l2al3l3it)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by l2al3l3it »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GSR and ITR is dual correct?</TD></TR></TABLE>
the gsr only has one bend can't speak for the ITR because i never removed it, but it sure feels alot better than the gsr
the gsr only has one bend can't speak for the ITR because i never removed it, but it sure feels alot better than the gsr
07-03-2007, 06:17 PM
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energy suspension polyurethane bushings= $13 well spent.
i have a b&m in my hatch and an ebay one in my eg8 and honestly i like the ebay shifter better. just my opinion i guess both have poly bushings the ebay one just feels more precise for some reason as dumb as that sounds.
i have a b&m in my hatch and an ebay one in my eg8 and honestly i like the ebay shifter better. just my opinion i guess both have poly bushings the ebay one just feels more precise for some reason as dumb as that sounds.
07-03-2007, 06:39 PM
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Re: (forcefedferio)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by forcefedferio »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i like the ebay shifter better. just my opinion i guess both have poly bushings the ebay one just feels more precise for some reason as dumb as that sounds.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's because the B&M is a POS.
Dual bend or single is just more about the position of the shifter, dual bend is the most popular.
That's because the B&M is a POS.
Dual bend or single is just more about the position of the shifter, dual bend is the most popular.
07-03-2007, 07:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That's because the B&M is a POS.
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x2 to that haha
That's because the B&M is a POS.
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x2 to that haha
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My civics stock so i havent swapped it out but i have a short throw in my 300zx and i love it. I got bronze bushings for it and it gives a much better feel than those flimsy plastic ones that came with it.
07-05-2007, 05:28 AM
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Re: (l2al3l3it)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by l2al3l3it »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thx for the info guys. Now I need to know what brand name/type of bushings are good?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Prothane, ES, a bushing is a bushing. The prothanes are supposed to be stiffer, so I got those.
Prothane, ES, a bushing is a bushing. The prothanes are supposed to be stiffer, so I got those.
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Re: (steveo2000em1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by steveo2000em1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Skunk 2 dual bend FTW 
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07-05-2007, 06:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gtlaw1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the gsr only has one bend can't speak for the ITR because i never removed it, but it sure feels alot better than the gsr</TD></TR></TABLE>
My GSR... stock shifter
the gsr only has one bend can't speak for the ITR because i never removed it, but it sure feels alot better than the gsr</TD></TR></TABLE>
My GSR... stock shifter
