agp1183

ok, im having trouble getting my old shifter out to install my short shifter, the bolts are all rusted beyond removal by socket

Any ideas on how to remove these?

Another Question: are the two rusty spots on the far right of the pic the screws in the pic below this one? I was having trouble turning them, even though they look fine from the top




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Slow EJ8

Im not sure if you would have tried this already but spray some WD-40 or liquid wrench on the bolts and see if that helps

agp1183

nope, the problem is the bolts flake apart when i twist the socket wrench, making them round and pretty much useless

Slow EJ8

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ouch... I am having the same problem with my exhaust bolts... all rusted and even with WD-40 they just round off the bolts. Only way I know of getting mine off is heating them up first. I dont think you wanna be doing that inside your car.

Sorry I dont have any other ideas.... but bump for you

and gl

eg4usdm

holy **** dude that is soo bad

but this shop and i used i think it was called panther **** or something like that

(not joking)

but it worked soo good it ate away at the rust and made things so much easier

good luck with that.

FortunateFool.

Im so glad I dont live up north. Suck man gl

transpar_nt

What I use for stuff like that is some liquid graphite. You can get it at any hardware/automotive place. Let that soak for a minute, then try using a vicegrip. It'll f*ck up the nut, but I'm assuming you'll be buying a new nut/bolt anyway. If that doesn't work, try to get a hacksaw in there. There probably isn't enough room to cut the bolt, but if you can cut into the side of the nut it will make it a lot easier. Good luck

siregcivic

yah get a hacksaw or a dremel and replace them with oem bolts

Redline96LX

if that doesnt work, take off the exhaust, and get some vice grips, or big *** pliers in there, and some muscle, but ya dont wanna break it, although they are pretty tough, you could. WHen you get em out, junk em and get some bolts from honda. when ya put em back in, use some graphite on the threads (anti-sieze) so it dont happen again

...boy you really do live in Michigan

agp1183

yea i do im gonna cut em and get new ones i guess, not much else i can do

transpar_nt

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by transpar_nt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What I use for stuff like that is some liquid graphite. You can get it at any hardware/automotive place. Let that soak for a minute, then try using a vicegrip. It'll f*ck up the nut, but I'm assuming you'll be buying a new nut/bolt anyway. If that doesn't work, try to get a hacksaw in there. There probably isn't enough room to cut the bolt, but if you can cut into the side of the nut it will make it a lot easier.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow. You pretty much just said what I did, only 77 mins later.

Morning Call

heres an idea: dont install the short shifter..

its been proven they dont do anything but make shifting harder..

unless your going for the bling factor

eg4usdm

hmm well yeah i would love to see some actual facts

because i love my short shift kit and ive driven stock civics and hmm yeah i would take my kit over stock..

Morning Call

think about it this way.. your transmission can only shift so fast... and unless your a fat slob, i imagine you should be able to shift that fast... a short shifter forces your transmission into gear... well not forces it in, but puts force onto shifting the gears...

now, onto the the actual performance... when driving... the safest way to drive is with 2 hands on the wheel.. now, i know %80 on people in here proly drive with 1 hand on the wheel the other on the shifter, but this is not near as safe as 2 hands... now, short shifters DO NOT, i repeat, DO NOT allow faster shifting, rather just a shorter throw.. to make shifting less work... but in all reality, how ******* hard is it to shift? is it that hard to make u spend X amount of dollars on a part for your car that does not make u any faster, or any safer? its a useless aftermarket part for your car that any idiot who doesnt know whats going on would recomend u buy for your import

any pro will tell you that an extended shifter is the best performing shift ull get
now any ricer who thinks hes pro will tell you otherwise.. lemme see if i can come up with the article about short shifters

eg4usdm

okay but i hateeee my friends shift its sooo long and un comfortable i mean mines not like *click* where its hard to find gears but its nice and cumfy i dont go racing around testing it having my sister in the passenger seat timing me to see if this shifter really made a difference hahaha.

i just like how they feel.

but i totally agree with the extended but with the extention there will be an even longer period between gears. like not TOTALLY noticable, but i mean on things where it does count like rally cars, they have extended and shortened shifters. i mean if its going to be for a street car if you can get a nice one for a good price go for it, its easy to put in and i personally like the smoothness.

but yeah your right, it does kinda push the gears. i imagine that it will eventually wear on your synchros quicker than stock.

get one if you want it but dont get one to say its a performance enhancement

agp1183

i guess i will find out when i put it on... im not throwing out the stock one as soon as i remove it

nub.96ek

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agp1183

some more nastyness:



Im thinking i can cut those welded bolts loose and take the bolts out from the rubber isolator or whatever it was called, im gonna have new bolts in a few days for it. Hope it goes well

eg4usdm

why are you going through so much for just a short shifter?

agp1183

i should take care of the rust anyways, plus i have nothing to do

G-CIV

I put a short shifter in my EK and it made me able to go ALOT FASTER and prolly added like 15hp!!!!

Koolaid_Chris

i had rust problems putting in my lowering springs, it sucked

Project_DX

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hahahaha.....it's more like 20hp

but seriously get some of that anti sieze **** for your new bolts or that same **** will happen after one winter up here!!!

agp1183

yep one question... what would be a good paint for these parts? I want to paint the linkage after i take the rust off

junior40er

man thats some major rust problem. One of my hatchbacks has 275K mile on the chassis and has no rust at all. Try pounding it with a hammer see if it loosens it up.