Rebuilding your own transmission
06-12-2003, 09:21 AM
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Rebuilding your own transmission
Pretty much I want to know what parts out of this list I would need to rebuild my tranny... specifically syncro's 2, 3 and 4. What do you recommend I grab to replace those parts of if I should just invest in a new tranny with 0 miles...
honda does a rehaul for 400 dollars plus labor but dare say what they charge.
http://www.hondaautomotivepart...82%29
what numbers out of that parts list should I purchase.
honda does a rehaul for 400 dollars plus labor but dare say what they charge.
http://www.hondaautomotivepart...82%29
what numbers out of that parts list should I purchase.
06-12-2003, 09:38 AM
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Re: Rebuilding your own transmission (137)
Honda is going to charge at least 500 in labor. maybe less if you bring in the tranny your self. but at that price your almost to a type-r (used) + you can still sell your tranny with scratches for about 200-300
06-12-2003, 10:41 AM
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Re: Rebuilding your own transmission (SpooN Man)
I tried to bring the tranny itself into honda when I had the engine at alaniz getting rebuilt and they said they want the car there with the tranny.
06-12-2003, 10:43 AM
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Re: Rebuilding your own transmission (137)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 137 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I tried to bring the tranny itself into honda when I had the engine at alaniz getting rebuilt and they said they want the car there with the tranny. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats upsetting. If you have the time and tools try it out yourself. Do you have the helms for model engine your have?
Thats upsetting. If you have the time and tools try it out yourself. Do you have the helms for model engine your have?
06-12-2003, 10:52 AM
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Re: Rebuilding your own transmission (junglerunna02)
If you are going to have to buy the new synchro gear sets, I'd say just pick up a used ITR tranny for a couple hundred more instead. The synchro sets run up to $300. Along with other misc. parts... not sure if you have LSD but if you picked up a used ITR tranny you get that and more than likely a low milage tranny 
06-12-2003, 12:07 PM
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Re: Rebuilding your own transmission (137)
Hey 137, what year/make is your car again?
I can tell you from personal experience that synchros can get expensive.
The 3-4 one is almost $200.00 if not more.
If I were you and needed more than 2 synchro sets I'd be thinking about buying a low mileage used ITR tranny.
If you still want to freshen your up, then look at getting:
3 counter shaft bearings
2 mainshaft bearings
mainshaft seal
shifter shaft seal
axle seals
whatever synchros you need
possibly diff bearings, but unlikely
The counter and main bearings are always the first to go.
If you're looking for those bearings then you'll need to find the exploded diagrapms of the main and counter shafts as well as the clutch and tranny/bell housings as they are listed on the computers there most times.
Are we talking about a 99-00 Civic Si?
I can tell you from personal experience that synchros can get expensive.
The 3-4 one is almost $200.00 if not more.
If I were you and needed more than 2 synchro sets I'd be thinking about buying a low mileage used ITR tranny.
If you still want to freshen your up, then look at getting:
3 counter shaft bearings
2 mainshaft bearings
mainshaft seal
shifter shaft seal
axle seals
whatever synchros you need
possibly diff bearings, but unlikely
The counter and main bearings are always the first to go.
If you're looking for those bearings then you'll need to find the exploded diagrapms of the main and counter shafts as well as the clutch and tranny/bell housings as they are listed on the computers there most times.
Are we talking about a 99-00 Civic Si?
06-12-2003, 12:11 PM
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Re: Rebuilding your own transmission (137)
By the way:
If people think building a tranny is as simple as reading and following instructions it's not quite that simple. I've seen some very skilled techs here at our shop on the verge of throwing fits when trying to get a case back together.
Sometimes diagrams and words on a page can't show the minute differences in a gear or collar being right side up or not.
If I were you I would not let anyone near that tranny after it's torn apart. If someone grans up a part and moves it from how you had laid it down you might be wanting to kill someone once you find that the case won't go back together or it won't go in reverse.
Remember exactly how you had the **** while it was coming out of the tranny.
If people think building a tranny is as simple as reading and following instructions it's not quite that simple. I've seen some very skilled techs here at our shop on the verge of throwing fits when trying to get a case back together.
Sometimes diagrams and words on a page can't show the minute differences in a gear or collar being right side up or not.
If I were you I would not let anyone near that tranny after it's torn apart. If someone grans up a part and moves it from how you had laid it down you might be wanting to kill someone once you find that the case won't go back together or it won't go in reverse.
Remember exactly how you had the **** while it was coming out of the tranny.
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06-12-2003, 12:50 PM
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Re: Rebuilding your own transmission (137)
I wouldn`t even consider trying to rebuild my own trans.
I`d sell it, take the cash and put it towards another trans.
I`d sell it, take the cash and put it towards another trans.
06-12-2003, 12:55 PM
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Re: Rebuilding your own transmission (vtecvoodoo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wouldn`t even consider trying to rebuild my own trans.
I`d sell it, take the cash and put it towards another trans.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Word.
I'm still in the process of building an engine, and in no way would I still even try to tear apart my own tranny and rebuild it.
I`d sell it, take the cash and put it towards another trans.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Word.
I'm still in the process of building an engine, and in no way would I still even try to tear apart my own tranny and rebuild it.
06-12-2003, 12:57 PM
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Re: Rebuilding your own transmission (vtecvoodoo)
lol... what about stoner ryan... you guys ripped apart homedudes tranny that one night didnt you, the one that had the single cam supercharged coupe that sold it and got a jetta 1.8t.
his name escapes me.
his name escapes me.
06-12-2003, 12:57 PM
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Re: Rebuilding your own transmission (vtecvoodoo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wouldn`t even consider trying to rebuild my own trans.
I`d sell it, take the cash and put it towards another trans.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is the way I would go too. I would never consider fooling around with my tranny. Think about it, if you screw it up, you might have to do it again or even worse you could totally destroy it and have to buy an ITR tranny anyway.
I`d sell it, take the cash and put it towards another trans.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is the way I would go too. I would never consider fooling around with my tranny. Think about it, if you screw it up, you might have to do it again or even worse you could totally destroy it and have to buy an ITR tranny anyway.
06-12-2003, 01:00 PM
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Re: Rebuilding your own transmission (gsr_vx_wOOt!)
id rather buy a used b16 tranny with a quaife lsd in mind instead of wasting it on an itr tranny.
06-12-2003, 01:02 PM
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Re: Rebuilding your own transmission (137)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 137 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol... what about stoner ryan... you guys ripped apart homedudes tranny that one night didnt you, the one that had the single cam supercharged coupe that sold it and got a jetta 1.8t.
his name escapes me. </TD></TR></TABLE>
...and he said he`d never do it again. This is coming from a certified porsche tech and honda guru.
That was Euegen`s car btw.
his name escapes me. </TD></TR></TABLE>
...and he said he`d never do it again. This is coming from a certified porsche tech and honda guru.
That was Euegen`s car btw.
06-12-2003, 01:06 PM
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Re: Rebuilding your own transmission (137)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 137 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">id rather buy a used b16 tranny with a quaife lsd in mind instead of wasting it on an itr tranny.
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Yeah I don't really see how thats a waste of money on the ITR, especially when higher gearing is available.
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Yeah I don't really see how thats a waste of money on the ITR, especially when higher gearing is available.
06-12-2003, 01:29 PM
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Re: Rebuilding your own transmission (137)
my sister is rebuilding a tranny at her tech school,...i watched her do one and well,...im gonna for sure stay away from rebuilding a tranny,...i will just buy a new one if mine goes out
06-12-2003, 01:50 PM
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Re: Rebuilding your own transmission (WiDeBoDyEK)
IM CHEETAH. Greg has whole gearsets for sale. He is asking $150 per gearset. Gear mesh, syncros, teh whole deal. IM him.
06-12-2003, 02:03 PM
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Re: Rebuilding your own transmission (WAFFLES)
i just bought a new gearing set from liam821 its being installed by the whip factory for 300 w/ install of the phantom grip.. check out their site pretty good prices.. http://www.whipfactory.com i think
06-13-2003, 07:41 AM
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Re: Rebuilding your own transmission (137)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 137 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I got a replacement I would still try to rebuild my own tranny, looks like fun. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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06-13-2003, 07:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 137 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I got a replacement I would still try to rebuild my own tranny, looks like fun. </TD></TR></TABLE>
looks like fun...
looks like fun...
06-13-2003, 07:56 AM
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06-13-2003, 08:43 AM
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a tranny rebuild is not for the faint of heart but it is completely possible with a LOT of patience.
*they KEY to getting the cases halves back together is to shake it like an earthquake because some shafts will not find their seat easily because not all of the holes are countersunk big enough. you cannot try and force them together or even tap themn with hammers etc.. you need to wiggle them sideways like you are haaving a epileptic seizure. And yes I am serious. I know now that is THE way to do it after trying fro 3 hours the other ways.
DIY tranny rebuild =
*they KEY to getting the cases halves back together is to shake it like an earthquake because some shafts will not find their seat easily because not all of the holes are countersunk big enough. you cannot try and force them together or even tap themn with hammers etc.. you need to wiggle them sideways like you are haaving a epileptic seizure. And yes I am serious. I know now that is THE way to do it after trying fro 3 hours the other ways.
DIY tranny rebuild =