JarvisW

I was looking at rebuilding my Z6. Its got a burned valve from a cracked exaust, and has almost 300k on the motor.

When I looked into just getting machine work done, and putting the parts in myself, it was like $700, if they did it $1k!

So I started looking into imported motors, and all I could find was JDMmotors and Hmotors. Well, neither have a ZC 92-95 motor in stock!

So, what should I start thinking about? Anyone know if JDM is any good? They said to call when I am ready to buy, but they (and Hmotors) don't even STOCK this!

I want to keep the D16 ODB1, and not have things too complicated.

So, Rebuild a 300k motor with a burned valve, or try my luck with these importers?

USDM sI

if your planning on a complete rebuild i would stick with the Z6 but the imported motors usually work great ive bought a few for friends and for myself
i know they usually stock a 92-95 d15b vtec which my brother got for his 94 civic.
hes had it for a lttle over 2 years now and it works great for a daily driver

lunareg

im running a d16zc (sohc vtec) essentially the d16z6 just a little more power. I've had no issues with it, but honestly you should be able to pick up a z6 from a junkyard or craigslist ect/ for alot less and its really not that much different.

USDM sI

oh yeah way cheaper than 1k just givin ideas

JarvisW

I haven't seen any Z6s on Craigslist that aren't attached to the cars lol..

USDM, who did you order from?

Zen Chameleon

Dude, you have 3 "Pick N Pull"s in Dallas and I quickly counted 20 civics 92'-95' and one came in yesterday. oh and 6 Tegs. Sure you have to grunt and pull them yourself but hell for the price I don't think you can go wrong, if your careful. Good Luck

P.S. if you find a half dozen b18c1's send me a pm lol

JarvisW

lol Zen, sure, but I'd like some kind of guarantee its gonna run.

But I will keep that in mind too!

Zen Chameleon

Eh, they give you 30 days. Worth the hunt IMO, but I'm poor folk. Any used motor is a risk to a certain degree. I'm far from a master but used motors come from used cars, yeah engines from japan are known to have fewer miles on them but there is still a risk. Who knows, you could find a gold mine, you may find a perfect jdm motor in a crashed car for half the price. Just something to look into.

P.s http://www.picknpull.com/default.aspx

JarvisW

Yeah, its an option. But like you said, mileage is unknown.

Has anyone used JDMmotors, or HMotorsonline?

Just getting as much info as I can.

94EG8

Tons of people have bought engines through Hmotorsonline, I have yet to here someone complain. I bought my engine through a company called sunrise JDM and had no issues, i've run it for over 3 years and 60,000kms now and it hasn't taken a drop of anything. The way I looked at it was this, it was about $400 for a used engine from a junkyard (this was just for a D15B7) with intake and exhaust manifold and nothing else. For $683 (including tax and shipping) I bought a JDM D15B Vtec, complete engine, no transmission. Complete meaning it came with the distributor, alternator, P/S pump, A/C compressor, intake manifold, top half of the exhaust manifold, all sensors, cut JDM harness and in my case the clutch was still on it. Engine was super clean too, we use a lot of salt on the roads around here so stuff thats 15 years old coming from a junkyard is rusted pretty bad, in terms of metal tubing for coolant and such, if you're in texas this probably isn't an issue for you.

JarvisW

Thanks! I saw the D15B, but didn't see a D16Z6 equal.

I'll email Hmotors and see what they have to say.

And I did see the thread with all the raves about Hmotors, but it was started in 01- 02 and didn't have many responses past 07, and LOTS can change in a few years lol.

94EG8

SOHC Vtec ZC,

They might be able to find you something, if not another importer can. Theres lots of them out there, and other than Hmotors I think they're all pretty much the same.

Anytime someone mentions their name everyone still raves on about how great they are, but the fact is more often then not you get a good engine from an importer, and if there is something wrong most of them are more than willing to make it right.

JarvisW

Thx, I knew the ZC, just saying they didn't have one online. I did call, and Steve said they would get ZCs in after the 7th.

So, I think I'll go with them, they seem the most reliable.

BryanM.

iTrader: (1)

I would get a D15B, Hmotors has sold a lot of them too.


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JarvisW

That would mean getting a different computer and harness etc?

I want to do/buy as lil as possible, so the stock-er the better.

I have a p-28 if that matters.

Also, does that mean having to do any work swapping out sensors etc in order to use MY stock harness? (with ANY JDM engine, a ZC or D15B or whatever?)

JarvisW

Like I said HMotors dont have it listed online, but here is the JDM one...

http://www.jdmenginescorp.com/engine...95-engine-only

It looks just like the Z6, in the other pics i've seen.

JDM B20 EH2

just so you know pick n pull offers either a 90 day or a 180 day warranty. i think its 180 day. and its less than $200. If it still has the cluster in it you will have exact mileage.

94EG8

You'll have to run a 4 wire O2 sensor to keep your ECU (not really a big deal, just reuse the O2 sensor from your old engine) and depending on how strict the emissions testing is you will have to either swap the intake manifold over from your old engine or just add the purge solenoid to the JDM intake manifold (requires drilling 2 holes and taping one) You can run a JDM D15B Vtec (make sure its the OBD1 version, and make sure its the power implementation and not the vtec-e variant) with your current harness and ECU. I've been running mine on a stock P28 and used to get 48 - 51 MPG (imperial gallons, i think it works out to around 40MPG US gallons) with a DX tranny, now that i'm running an Si tranny my mileage has dropped.

Yeah thats the one, its almost identical to a Z6.

JarvisW

Thanks, I will check on that JDM B20..

Problem is, how many 15-17 yr old cars have as lil mileage as a JDM engine

I saw 2 at a pick n pull nearby for $400. Not bad, but both had 120-140k on them, so to make it a dependable DD, it would need an oil pump, water pump, and timing belt. While still under a JDM price, its extra work I could pass on.

JDM B20 EH2

but even with a jdm one i would still recommend those same parts. while its out might as well for peace of mind.

here is our price here.
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JarvisW

Wow, it was getting 30-33 before! But could also get outta the way of its-self when it had to. I'd hate to compromise the MPG or Power. Not really familiar with the D15B, but wouldnt I want a 1.6?

And the O2 sensor is no prob, I think I replaced it with a 4 wire already. I also have the old intake. So are you saying that would go on the ZC or the D15B, or both?

94EG8

On the water pump and timing belt note, even with a JDM engine I always replace them, a lot of times they've never been done, they're supposed to be done every 100,000 or every 6 years, whichever comes first, everyone seems to forget the 6 years part though. I always buy honda water pumps too btw, I have yet to see an aftermarket one that isn't a piece of crap. Timing belt, just buy Gates, they're honda's OEM supplier.

JarvisW

Cool, good to know all that.

I usually get OEM as much as possible too

94EG8

Like I said we use imperial gallons over here, so right now i'm probably getting around the same mileage you are, maybe slightly better.

Intake will fit either, all 3 of the use the same intake manifold, just the JDM engines lack a purge solenoid, you can clearly see where it would go, just holes aren't drilled and taped for it.

JarvisW

Ah, all good to know!

Thanks guys for the info!