Jamez

In the search I've seen the way people do it is by keeping the P/S rack and modifying it. I know that way might be cheaper but wouldn't the right way be to actually go out and buy a non P/S rack? Is there any reason why no one seems to have done this?

Seems like it would be a much better way to do it as there wouldn't be any lubrification problems and I'm pretty sure the turning ratio of the non P/S rack is different from the P/S one...

Deemeetree

I believe the Honda Civic CX doesn't have power steering and has manual rack and pinion. Don't quote me on this one, but I think it's right. Maybe you can swap one out?



It goes for $359.60, so you might want to hit the local junkyards and get one.

AutoZone sells Manual Rack and Pinion setups for $241, non-OEM of course.

Someone can probably chime in for more information.

jetpilot

I took out ps form my si hatch and damaged the ps rack so now I installed a nonPS rack and its perfect (its thinner too so less wheight)

2OOOsi

why would you want to remove ps in the first place? i used to have a car w/ out it and it is a total pain the *** parking..

thenick

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i can understand if you have a PS car and then you remove the PS and try to park it, i've had a car like this before and my boy's car is like this and its a pain in the ***, but if you have a civic that came with no PS its pretty easy to turn the wheel. i personally feel more in control of the car and can turn it with one hand for the most part, so all in all dude, don't be a *****

elwood

You need a manual subframe too, if you want to do it right.
The brackets are different from ps to non ps. I had to use
a ps rack on my cx with a nonps subframe and it didnt fit
right. It worked, but I would get a lot of viberations. It was
just a temporary thing to get me home so I could fix my
manual subframe, but it sucked for that few days I had the
combination.

The manual rack has more play from side to side, I would
much rather have a power rack and subframe with the
power steering removed, then my manual one.

pb16b

you could go with the non ps rack. i think if you have a '92-'95 civic you won't have to swap the subframe. but for '96-'00 you should swap the subframe. you could run a hose up from the ps rack with a valve or fitting and occasionally put ps fluid in it if you don't want to do the swap.

deviant1

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=556271

elwood

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I guess my post was a bit confusing for some people.

Sorry I didnt specify, I always forget 96+ are so much
different.

Jamez

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AutoZone sells Manual Rack and Pinion setups for $241, non-OEM of course.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Little trade secret : steering racks are pretty much all made by the same company. Not only from OEM to aftermarket but from car maker to car maker 241$us is still pretty expensive though, I guess I could try and find someone who'd like to swap.

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You should of taken your car in to get inspected. A non P/S is not supposed to be painfully hard to turn. Sometimes it's just a matter of air pressure in the tires and a little adjustement on the rack guide screw. Then again I don't know what you drove, if it was a 60s land yacht or something then nevermind, but a 2000lbs Civic hatch I think I'd be fine