allmotorguy

Im talking about no internal work done. Give me a list of things that will mostly get it there. I searched for this and was unable to find it. Thanks guys. So far my mods consist of aem cai, jdm 4-2-1 header, carsound 2.5 car, custom 2.5 inch exhaust with apex turbo n1 muffler and a act hdss clutch and flywheel. Thanks guys maybe some Hondata and some cams will get me closer to there. Please just give me some suggestions. This is a allmotor car and its gonna stay that way. If honda cars were ment to be turbocharged thats how they would come out of the factory IMHO>


Modified by allmotorguy at 11:11 AM 5/9/2003

Bigphlip

Turbocharge it!!!

allmotorguy

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bigphlip &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Turbocharge it!!!</TD></TR></TABLE> I dont want to risk blowing my engine. I plan to put it back to stock and get a S2K. I will keep my car all motor for a while (about a year or 10 months) I dont want to drive stock and I was saving for my Tkit but I decided not to. But I do still have about 6 grand and im only gonna be throwing in about 15-1700 dollars in my car. Its already on tein ss and volk 37 so im done there all I need is some good motorwork.

2trix

so why spend all that moeny if your gonna get an s2k!? why not just keep it stock and then trade in....id say FI or n2o which you would the risk of doing some damage to your engine...

Bigphlip

You can run 8lbs of boost and not even trip. My buddy has had his '99 Si turbocharged for almost 10,000 miles @ 8lbs and no problems so far.

137

your not going to get that hp w/o internal work sorry.

AGPSuperstar

get skunk2 stage 2 cams, complete valvetrain, type R intake manifold, obd1 conversion, chip it, V-AFC, and TUNE that biatch....that should put hp somewhere around there....oh yea, sell your headers and get the JDM type R headers

WAFFLES

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Agreed...Have you considered a JRSC or ****, maybe even some nitrous. Zex makes a pretty nice kit. Just adding this to what's been mentioned.

TrboInteg

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I'm not understanding what your trying to do. You want to keep it all motor but without replacing internals. However you mentioned cams and everyone I know considers those internals. So, If your open to replacing those, what else internally are you open to replacing? Also, what's wrong with JR supercharger? They'll give you a warrenty and it'll put your whp right where you want it.

underrated99si

actualy its not realy hard to get it there. I have a buddy with just bolt ons and JUN3's with stock bottome end putting down 176whp.

what u will need to get to the 180 mark is

1 set of high lift cams like Jun3's
1. bored out or bigger TB like 64mm or 62mm
1 set of High compression pistons 11.5.1 or for cheap u can put in CTR's and get 11.1
a nice 2.5 JDM header of some kind * if on a budget DC JDM 4-1*
Test pipe or a 2.5 cat and a nice 2.5 inch mandrel bent exhaust with good flow.

BUt most important is that u get a stand alone like HONDATA and get the car tuned by a pro or somebody who knows what the hell they are doing

with the set up ablove I think your goal is more than easy to obtain.

chris

Mike_C

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all stock

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B18C5-EH2

JRSC.

Other than that, no way.

Cams alone will very rarely if ever net over 180whp - soryy but it's not "easy" as others have said.

There's a member here that did full Toda head package with Toda Bs, higher Cr pistons, SMS Products header and exhaust, and got 174whp.

That's a fully built B16A tuned to 174whp.

RS_91

Bosch platinum 4+s.

That should do it.

rodrez.

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That should do it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha,

seriously, that's a big number to hit with a B16. Going to need internals and pretty big cams.

WAFFLES

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JRSC.

Other than that, no way.

Cams alone will very rarely if ever net over 180whp - soryy but it's not "easy" as others have said.

There's a member here that did full Toda head package with Toda Bs, higher Cr pistons, SMS Products header and exhaust, and got 174whp.

That's a fully built B16A tuned to 174whp.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you are refering to TodaSI or Chad, he had stock pistons in his B16A, Toda Bs and bolt ons to make that 17x hp...**** if you can make 170whp on a stock bottomend B16A with R cams and tuning, then you can make lots more with Toda Bs and more compression. Something to think about.

00MRSi

I think its possible with the right mix of parts and tuning. Tuning is gonna be key. I know of someone with a b16a2/99 SI that has ~180 whp. Setup is CTR cams, CTR pistons, slightly milled head, (don't remember how much) Mugen headgasket, JDM ITR 4-1 header with carsound 2.5" cat and buddy club Spec II exhaust. He has a chipped ECU, don't remember which one.. I believe Jack from P1 Auto was involved with the tuning..

Apex i ITR

Possible with the right parts and TUNING. Someone who who gets good numbers with the Hondata. No Hondata (Or something equivalent).....no way.

SRT-WHORE

He said stock internals. It's not gonna happen without boost or juice, sorry. If you change your mind about the internals, I can give you a setup that will easily get you there.

B18C5-EH2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00MRSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think its possible with the right mix of parts and tuning. Tuning is gonna be key. I know of someone with a b16a2/99 SI that has ~180 whp. Setup is CTR cams, CTR pistons, slightly milled head, (don't remember how much) Mugen headgasket, JDM ITR 4-1 header with carsound 2.5" cat and buddy club Spec II exhaust. He has a chipped ECU, don't remember which one.. I believe Jack from P1 Auto was involved with the tuning.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You said pistons and Jack tuning.

Jack is a bad-*** tuner and pistons are internals. If it took Jack and CTR pistons to get to 180whp then consider it nearly impossible to do on stock internals.

vtecvoodoo

Being different is cool, but I`d rather spend my money wiser.

I can iceskate uphill, but choose not to.

Ryan

A D NOH

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I can iceskate uphill, but choose not to.

Ryan</TD></TR></TABLE>

hahahaha
you can do stock block 180whp .. . its been done

you'd be amazed by the power you can yield from professional headwork, huge cams, free flowing intake manifold, and free flowing exhaust and grade A tuning.

If you have to ask, its probably not worth my time or your time.....

wait till you get your s2k

edit: remembering Cams are internal, FORGET ABOUT IT, hahahaha but i have seen 189 on CTR cams. .. still stock b16a internals, nope..

I know of a 182whp untuned b16 stock cams stock pistons... hes a member on this board too...he is some hybrid guy

137

my friend judd on csi is netting 180 to the wheels right now on pure headwork, stock cams itr intake mani, dc jdm 4to1, and hondata...

i think the hondata is whats making the most improvement on his engine...

976

He is asking a simple f**king question. No need to ask why, where, or what the f**k...

Here you go bro.

Stock B16 with B18C1 head, complete swap over, 189hp!

Jet Phi

that looks nice woot . . .
is that yoor engine ?