jcrwzr

My oil pan is leaking oil really really slow from the drain plug. What's annoying is it makes a mess on my street. People have told me to just put a bigger plug in there, but it could be messy and lead to more problems. What I want to do is replace the oil pan since it comes with a new drain plug. I read a repair manual, and it looks pretty easy to do, since I've done it before on a toyota corolla.

Here's the issue:
I go to O'Reilley/Kragen auto and get a new oil pan. This was in October 2011, and During that time I had no time to do the install so I thought I'd buy the parts one at a time.

On Monday Dec 19th, I go back to Kragen/OReilley, to get some oil, a new oil filter, the gasket, and liquid gasket. They tell me that the gasket needs to be ordered and it will get here On Dec 23. So I tell them, well forget it, I just looked at autozone on my phone and I'm getting it there because I want to do this this week. I know they have it in stock. I'm just loyal first to Kragen/OReilley because it's really close to my house. So i get the gasket at autozone, and I get home, and WTF? This gasket is really weird to put on!!


I find out after doing some searching that the oil pan that was sold to me by Kragen is a D16Y7 oil pan by spectra. And then, I'm looking around and finding out that I was sold a D16Y8 oil pan gasket by fel-pro. Fel-pro sells Y7 gaskets that look more like the kind that will fit my Y7 oil pan by Spectra.

I read around more forums and people are saying that I can use the Y7 oil pan on my Y8 block, but I just need to use the Y7 gasket.

Then I read that using a Y7 oil pan on my Y8 block will mess up my vtec. I don't want to mess with the vtec or oil pressure. My car is bone stock, and I like to keep it like that.

What do I do?

Mopagan

if you intend on keeping it stock,then id return the steel pan and get the correct one for your y8...
if it was my car id also forget about the gasket and just put it on with a nice bead of rtv.

88efZ6

Did you try replacing the crush washer around your drain plug?

jcrwzr

Yes, I have a new crush washer, but it didn't work.

HondaPartsHero

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop...ls0uuOUs&gl=US

motegicivic

Just get the right parts for the Y8, don't chance it, even if you have wait. You will regret starting the work and you have problems later on. Do just use liquid gasket, use the right gasket for that pan.

NOOdS

just return the oil pan for the right one. done deal

OneSickEj8(:

Nothing would mess up the vtec its an oil pan and gasket I have a y8 and the stupid s*** was leaking oil went too autozone cause it was close haha bought that felpro your talking about put it on and it didn't really fit all that good so I still installed it because its not returnable after it was open and it didn't leak for a couple days but with heat it shrunk and guess what leaked again. Just make sure everything is y8 and don't tighten the bolts too hard cause they'll break.

furious94ls

Return the pan, find a deal on an OEM oil pan and OEM gasket. This will be your best bet to avoid problems and future leaks.

jcrwzr

Update on the oil pan. The install was a success. Thanks for all your input. I still have VTEC (the stock 500rpms worth for a Y8). No problems at all. No oil leaks, or oil light. The oil pan is technically for a Y7 according to all the catalogs from summit, autozone, o'reilley and napa. what you need to use is the fel-pro Y7 gasket. The dip stick still fits too.

The oil pan has been installed for 4 days, and I've been driving it hard and easy. No oil leaks. No weird sounds, the bolt torquing has been the same all around. If weather is a factor, it's been about mid 60s in the day time since Thursday Dec 22, and it's about low 40s in the evening. Over saturday and Sunday (christmas eve and christmas) the weather has been low 40s in the evening, and 70 in the day time.

I'm open to discuss anymore concerns or answer questions!

apexi_rsx

y7 and y8 pans are the same they tend to be different from 92-95 because the oil pump is different.

94EG8

No. Y8 pans are aluminum, Y7s are steel.

Bense

Do the steel y7 pans even have a gasket aside from permatex ultragrey?

94EG8

It's been a while since I looked at one, but the '92 - '95 D-series engines had an actual gasket and they used a very similar pan so I'd guess yes.

BryanM.

iTrader: (1)

Yeah they use a regular rubber gasket. I got a Fel-Pro and used a little Honda Bonda a while back for mine.

apexi_rsx

yes this is true but i meant to say the bolt lay out is the same. and either pan/gasket will work for either.

on the z6 and a6 older motors the oil pump has a dif bolt lay out and the lil hump in the pan isnt as deep as the y7 and y8 pan and oil pumps. thats why whenever wanting to turn a z6 motor into a y8 using the y8 ecu u have to change the oil pump,pick up,pan, lower timing gear and crank sensor or jerry rig the cfk trick and hope it works and never throws a code for this swap to work. i have a z6 in my 96 civic and pass emissions all the time. i figured my way around it.

Bense

The dipstick passes through oil pump on d16y* engines as well

ekhaze

If you are using a y7 pan, make sure you are using the y7 oil pick-up tube, and if you are using the d16y8 aluminum pan, make sure you are using the y8 oil pick-up. im not sure what would happen if you didnt have matching pickups, but oil starvation would not be great...

BlueGreen

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BlueGreen

Thought every thing was the same on the bottom?????? So you are saying you need to change the pick up to a Y7????????????

BlueGreen

No help on this out there????????????????/

Project Dad

he is saying you should us the oil pick-up for the block the pan came from. I have a y8 pan on my y7. I swapped because my y7 pan was dented bad on the bottom, the pick-up had been pushed up a little. If the pick-up is too close to the pan or touching, you will burn the motor up because there will be little to no oil circulating.

BlueGreen

From what I can tell the block part number and pick up number are the same for both the Y7 and Y8. So to me that tells me that every thing on the bottom are the same between Y7 and Y8. The problem I have with the pan is that it is leaking at the drain plug. Have installed new plug with new crush washer. Still leaked. Installed over size plug and crush washer. Still leaks. Have ordered a new pan. Should be in this week some time.

Thanks for the info.

Project Dad

It is possible that the threads have been stretched or damaged. Since the pan is aluminum it is very easy to mess up those threads from over tightening

BlueGreen

That's what I'm thinking. Or there is a hair line crack at the drain. The reason why I'm replcing the pan. Should be in at the end of the week.