BADGUYNY

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I have a 2000 Civic Si tranny and I am in need of a lsd. Somebody please tell me what oem lsd fits.

BADGUYNY

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somebody has to know

vlc92189

whast wrong with an aftermarket?

Libertariat

you'd be better off getting an OBX lsd.

OEM - Expensive

Quaife - $900

OBX - ~$350




Modified by ek forever guy at 9:51 AM 7/24/2007

mikeycivic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any b-series hydro lsd will work, but you'd be better off getting an OBX lsd.

OEM - Expensive

Quaife - $900

OBX - ~$350
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hondadriver

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any b-series hydro lsd will work, but you'd be better off getting an OBX lsd.

OEM - Expensive

Quaife - $900

OBX - ~$350
</TD></TR></TABLE>

WRONG! A OEM itr lsd will NOT bolt up in his b16 tranny. The OEM lsd will only bolt up in a GSR or type-r tranny. If he wants a OEM lsd in his b16, he will have to just go ahead and buy the 4.785 final drive kit, or buy the USDM type r 4.4 ring gear, counter shaft, pin bearings and first gear. The b16 ring gear will not bolt onto the lsd. If you want to put an lsd in your b16 and thats it nothing else, then you have to go aftermarket.

Libertariat

Modified by ek forever guy at 9:50 AM 7/24/2007

Bense

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondadriver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

WRONG! A OEM itr lsd will NOT bolt up in his b16 tranny. The OEM lsd will only bolt up in a GSR or type-r tranny. If he wants a OEM lsd in his b16, he will have to just go ahead and buy the 4.785 final drive kit, or buy the USDM type r 4.4 ring gear, counter shaft, pin bearings and first gear. The b16 ring gear will not bolt onto the lsd. If you want to put an lsd in your b16 and thats it nothing else, then you have to go aftermarket. </TD></TR></TABLE>

WRONG. The OEM ITR LSD doesn't "bolt up" to any trans. It floats between the two cases. The only bolts on the differential are for the ring gear. Most people don't pull off the 4.4 ITR/GSR ring gear because it mates with the stock B16 4.4 countershaft.

He doesn't have to buy a new ring gear, why would the prev owner remove it? They could swap b16 diff for itr diff and just leave the gear intact.

PS: ITR countershaft and B16 Countershaft and GSR countershaft are all the same part.

You don't know what you're talking about.

sicones

what if the LSD has the 98+ ITR 4.7 ring gear??

philosofy1

as i was scrolling down reading and i read this.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondadriver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

WRONG! A OEM itr lsd will NOT bolt up in his b16 tranny. The OEM lsd will only bolt up in a GSR or type-r tranny. If he wants a OEM lsd in his b16, he will have to just go ahead and buy the 4.785 final drive kit, or buy the USDM type r 4.4 ring gear, counter shaft, pin bearings and first gear. The b16 ring gear will not bolt onto the lsd. If you want to put an lsd in your b16 and thats it nothing else, then you have to go aftermarket. </TD></TR></TABLE>


i was about to reply when i saw Bense already took care of it.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

WRONG. The OEM ITR LSD doesn't "bolt up" to any trans. It floats between the two cases. The only bolts on the differential are for the ring gear. Most people don't pull off the 4.4 ITR/GSR ring gear because it mates with the stock B16 4.4 countershaft.

He doesn't have to buy a new ring gear, why would the prev owner remove it? They could swap b16 diff for itr diff and just leave the gear intact.

PS: ITR countershaft and B16 Countershaft and GSR countershaft are all the same part.

You don't know what you're talking about. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Bense

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondadriver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">buy the USDM type r 4.4 ring gear, counter shaft, pin bearings and first gear. </TD></TR></TABLE>

O RLY?

2001 ITR Countershaft
23221-P21-020

2000 Civic Si Countershaft
23221-P21-020

1994 GSR Countershaft
23221-P21-020


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First Gear

2001 ITR 1st gear
23421-P21-000

2000 civic si 1st gear
23421-P21-000

1994 GSR 1st Gear
23421-P21-000

Need I go on?

mikeycivic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

O RLY?

2001 ITR Countershaft
23221-P21-020

2000 Civic Si Countershaft
23221-P21-020

1994 GSR Countershaft
23221-P21-020


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First Gear

2001 ITR 1st gear
23421-P21-000

2000 civic si 1st gear
23421-P21-000

1994 GSR 1st Gear
23421-P21-000

Need I go on?</TD></TR></TABLE>


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Bense

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sicones &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what if the LSD has the 98+ ITR 4.7 ring gear??</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is the exception, then the OP would have to replace those parts or get a GSR or ITR ring gear.

Or go aftermarket.

Libertariat

w0ng_sta

OBX? have they resolved that axle locking problem? cuzzz i really want one but stopped looking once i saw people gettin thur **** stuck tight is good but i want it to slide back out when im done

Libertariat

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by w0ng_sta &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OBX? have they resolved that axle locking problem? cuzzz i really want one but stopped looking once i saw people gettin thur **** stuck tight is good but i want it to slide back out when im done </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, the 2nd gen's have all been pulled and replaced with 3rd gen obx lsd's that don't have any problems with locking.

Though the locking problem in the 2nd gen was easily resolved by just aligning the washers inside the differential.

hondadriver

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

This is the exception, then the OP would have to replace those parts or get a GSR or ITR ring gear.

Or go aftermarket.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats exactly what i'm talking about!!!!

So your gonna tell me that if the OP finds a ITR LSD on ebay or where ever he'll be able just bolt on his B16 ring gear. I installed 2 4.785 final drives into b16a trannys. The b16a ring gear will not bolt on to a ITR LSD. NO ****** **** the LSD's don't bolt onto the tranny. OF course it floats. DO i have to be specific and say the LSD has 2 carrier bearings on it that fit into the tranny case, and that after you install it you have to check for clearances. I thought the USDM b16s have a 4.2 final drive that that all those parts would have to be replaced, if he ends up installing a 4.4 ring gear.

So what some people leave the ring gear on their lsd, there are tons of OEM LSD's sold with no ring gears. I don't know every oem counter shaft part number and what you can use where. I just wanted to correct the 2 posts that said he can install a oem lsd into his b16. Its not a direct bolt on, OH wait its not a DIRECT FLOAT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Modified by hondadriver at 6:32 PM 7/24/2007