Espincivic

Hello folks i just ordered a Pair of OEM lower ball joint for my 2000 Honda civic from different seller

Both are same part number but one its different or both are different so which one its the correct one. Hope you guys can help

98civdx

which side doesn't matter.. is the boot on the left one pushed down?

94EG8

Yeah they're both the same but the one on the left in the first pic looks weird. It's hard to tell in the package though.

Espincivic

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Espincivic

Yeah thats what A thought. If of pushed down means they try to installed???

98civdx

I missed the 2001 CRV picture. lol

Call the seller get the right ball joint

Espincivic

thats not the problem 2001 CRV will fit in 2000 honda civic, and yes both are the same

so now the question its why looks like pressed down also has a white paint mark in one side

MEANS ITS USED>?? I DONT KNOW ITS THE FIRST TIME I ORDERING LOWER BALL JOINTS

98civdx

I mean, anything is possible.

it's missing the clip that would hold the boot on.

Espincivic

yeah well i just send a msg to the seller about return it its a very expensive job for $140 both sides

so im about ordered a NEW one $50 bucks ugh

98civdx

you could just rent the tool yourself and knock them out in afternoon. it's a very simple job.

94EG8

For some reason one ball joint is missing the spiral ring clip that holds the boot on. You can reuse one from one of the old ball joints your replacing if you do it carefully. I'm just not sure if it's an OEM balljoint or not. If you pull the boot off and take a pic I can tell you for sure.

tony_2018

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Espincivic

i will take a picture.... the seller send me a full refund and i can keep the balljoint for some reason maybe he think its junk or it is.....

guys a question what about kony yellow and the orange ones orange ones looks cost less than the yellow? any reason for that

kdb vs kony? im about drop my car 1.5 all around if im not wrong maybe 2" im not sure about the spring size

Espincivic

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testify

I would return them both and just get a couple of Moog balljoints.

Moog truly does make a quality product.

testify

Koni Yellows have adjustable rebound damping. You can tune them and effectively stiffen them up.

Koni Orange has no adjustment capability, and is basically a Yellow set to full soft.

94EG8

That's an OEM balljoint, the boot was just on too far the spiral retainer was missing. Just carefully remove one from one of the old ball joints.

Moog makes absolute **** ball joints, actually let me rephrase that, Moog reboxes absolute **** ball joints, they don't actually make much of anything. Even the cheap house brands are usually made better than Moog. I have yet to see anything outlast an OEM Honda ball joint.

TomCat39

I bought TRW ball joints for my civic. Not installed yet. Of note, they do not have the cir-clip all the other aftermarket ball joints do.

From my research, off roaders say TRW makes quality ball joints. While all others fail in their 4x4 trucks, the TRW's last.

They were more costly than the Sankei 555's but still cheaper than going to the dealer here in Canada.

I suspect they may be close to OEM. Even designed like OEM without that clip, just press fit.

Time will tell once installed.

testify

How will it stay seated in the knuckle without the circlip?

94EG8

I've used TRW bushings here and there, they seem to be decent. Canadian pricing on those lower balljoints is downright scary. Last time I bought any it was a little over $100 each. Uppers are worse though, $250 a side for a 5th gen Civic.

It's pressed in there, it takes a lot of force to get one to move. Honda has been using that design for decades and I've never seen one move yet.

testify

Glad you're never going to work on my car.

TomCat39

Isn't that because you buy the whole upper arm minus the rear bushing set?

I figure if I'm shelling out 250 a side, I might as well shell out 250 USD for the Truhart upper control arm set with Hard Race Bushings and Hard Race heavy duty ball joint.

94eg!

iTrader: (2)

Never realized the OEM S04's don't use a cir-clip. I have 2 out in the garage and can confirm they look exactly like the ones pictured. If you thinking about it, the force of the spring pushing downward on the lower arm and the wheel pushing upward on the knuckle....there really is no need for a cir-clip.

BTW: I can also confirm Moog is just re-branded stuff. Both my sealed-in-box CRX upper arms, drop-shipped straight from Moog (via SummitRacing), were covered with Three-555-Five emblems.

testify

Incorrect.

Summit simply substituted the the 555 brand.

I worked in the autoparts business for many years.

Moog is Moog and nothing else.

98civdx

So Moog does sell Upper ball joints for civics, and you CAN do it. I did.

Now, here's my thing. Yes, it's a very tight fit, and there is a C clip also. my issue is the C clip does not fit how I would like it to. It may that is just how it is, I'm not sure.