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Old 10-26-2013, 08:30 AM
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Running a 2000 GSR B18C1 with Skunk2 intake manifold. Just realized my PCT got wasn't there and a P1Z-325 was put in it's place. Wondering if P30-A02 will work and if so, what might be any differences I might notice.

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It'll work better than what you have, but it's still going to run lean. Fuel and timing maps are a bit off.

I actually had to look up what P1Z was, sounds like a P2E with a different label for the Del Sol
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Is the P30 JDM as well? If it isn't the USDM is going to look for all the extra sensors such as EVAP, 2nd 02, CKF etc. Are you in a state that doesn't allow an OBD1 ECU for emissions? Because really neither of those ECUs are made for that setup.
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Is the P30 JDM as well?
A02 is USDM.
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It'll work better than what you have, but it's still going to run lean. Fuel and timing maps are a bit off.

I actually had to look up what P1Z was, sounds like a P2E with a different label for the Del Sol
Yeah, I had never heard of it before either. I think my search showed 96-97 S.

Kind of was expecting that it would run lean.
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Is the P30 JDM as well? If it isn't the USDM is going to look for all the extra sensors such as EVAP, 2nd 02, CKF etc. Are you in a state that doesn't allow an OBD1 ECU for emissions? Because really neither of those ECUs are made for that setup.
A02 is USDM 49-state emissions with manual transmission.

I'm in WA, in a county without emissions, but I don't have the cash to get another ECU right now. CRX daily got its window smashed.
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Yeah, I had never heard of it before either. I think my search showed 96-97 S.
That sounds right. '96 - '97 Si models got an OBD2 P28 that's basically just a P2P.

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CRX daily got its window smashed.
*Note to self* do not move to Washington. That's some seriously shitty luck to lose an ECU and get your window smashed.
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That sounds right. '96 - '97 Si models got an OBD2 P28 that's basically just a P2P.

*Note to self* do not move to Washington. That's some seriously shitty luck to lose an ECU and get your window smashed.
Oh, this month has just been wonderful. Anniversary of my dad's passing in a few days too.
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You can find an obd2 p72 just about anywhere.. you'd need a jumper harness as well which is something else you can find just about anywhere. you can run this ecu with the intake at least until you tune it and get a p28 or something.
Also P1Z is rare ecu obd2a to run b16 in obd2a car with no jumper harness. You can sell that pretty easily I'd imagine.

Also these are helpful.

http://technet.ff-squad.com/how-to/sk2im/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-6/b18c1-skunk2-intake-manifold-ecu-question-2970273/
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You can find an obd2 p72 just about anywhere.. you'd need a jumper harness as well which is something else you can find just about anywhere. you can run this ecu with the intake at least until you tune it and get a p28 or something.
Also P1Z is rare ecu obd2a to run b16 in obd2a car with no jumper harness. You can sell that pretty easily I'd imagine.

Also these are helpful.

http://technet.ff-squad.com/how-to/sk2im/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2970273
I don't know where you heard about the P1Z info. It's for a del Sol S. D16Y7 1.6L SOHC non-VTEC.


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*Note to self* do not move to Washington. That's some seriously shitty luck to lose an ECU and get your window smashed.
Hmmm... am contemplating a position in Seattle; I don't like reading this kind of stuff.
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Hmmm... am contemplating a position in Seattle; I don't like reading this kind of stuff.
Don't worry about the ECU. It's nothing you'd have to worry about. Pretty sure the window was all about homeless people walking through the neighborhood. Make sure you have an alarm and be sure to use it. Mine wasn't armed the night my glass got smashed.
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Sorry meant to write p30. Besides, neither will run your engine right.. I'd find a p72
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Sorry meant to write p30. Besides, neither will run your engine right.. I'd find a p72
A P72 isn't really right either once you remove the factory intake manifold. A P73 ITR ECU will probably be closest, but tat the very least find something from a B-series vtec and get a chipped and tuned OBD1 ECU when you can.
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A P72 isn't really right either once you remove the factory intake manifold. A P73 ITR ECU will probably be closest, but tat the very least find something from a B-series vtec and get a chipped and tuned OBD1 ECU when you can.
Yes I agree on getting obd1 ecu tuned. But for the time being p72 will work best until that happens.
Itr ecu will create other problems and is honestly a waste of money IMO unless you have an itr. It wont run right, timing will be off and will waste fuel, not to mention other things plugs sensors that p73 ecu looks for.
Read the links I posted
"You can run your stock GSR ecu as-is for the time being, but peformance wise, it will not feel right with the stock VTEC crossover point kicking on at approx. 5000rpms...so.."-Katman
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