EG_Si

hey i have the tuners locks right now.. but it has been suggested to get new ones.. so.. which ones provide the most security?

and to all my motegi haters out there.. here are pix of my new rims!! (sorry for the bad quality and dirty car.. its been pretty rainy)

EddieHatchBlack

McGard Spline Drives in Black Chrome.

BenB

None.

A real theif has every key and will get the wheels if he wants them. The only thing you can do is slow him down, try a different locking lug on every bolt.

EG_Si

edie: aight.. ill look into that 2mor.. so u say.. opt for the black chrome instead of the normal chrome..?

benb: well im aware of that.. but im asking about teh safest ones out there

and i heard having more than 1 locking nut is not secure.. like not strong enough?




[Modified by EG_Si, 9:44 AM 12/6/2002]

EddieHatchBlack

You won't be dis-satisfied.

ciRcuitJerk

someone else reccomended these to me so i say for those

B2FiNiTY

iTrader: (2)

Word

BlackDeuceCoupe

Um... correct me if I'm wrong, but this guy is running external nuts, right? Kind of hard to tell from the pics. If so, how are Spline Drives going to help him? You could probably take them off with a pair of rusty 99-cent pliers. The 'spline' would actually detract from security on these wheels, no? He would want wheel locks with a smooth finish, hard-surface and rounded corners, so you cannot grab hold of them with Vice-Grips or whatever...

EG_Si

bdc: yea man.. you're right. i never even thought about that..
sorry the pix suck.. but yea.. its the Buddy Club P1 Racing SF Wheels if that helps..?

what brand makes the ones u're talking about?

btw: not really regarding nething.. but would gator grips be able to open up mcguards or any of the locks?

BenB

I know most people realize that, but I dont think theres one "safest", if you have nice parts on your car, someone will want them. If someone wants them badly enough they will get them. I have wheel locks as well, but what will they do? probably nothing. Just be careful of where you park your car, etc...

Hope your wheels stay safe.

BlackDeuceCoupe

Yep, stick with 'tuner' wheel locks. They'll work the best for you.

I use OEM McGard 'tuner' nuts and they work fine. I got them at my Honda dealer. Honda just repackages them and puts their logo on 'em...

EG_Si

but didnt u say that using a vicegrip.. u can still take off the bolt?

and is this what i want?






[Modified by EG_Si, 11:11 AM 12/6/2002]

JDMb18civic

KOYUGEN

BlackDeuceCoupe

No!

Look, there are two BASIC styles of lug nuts; internal and external. By that, I mean that some lug nuts are completely hidden inside holes in the wheel (internal), while others are sitting in the open, exposed (external).

McGard Spline Drive wheel locks are GREAT if they are sitting down inside a hole, where you can't grab them with Vice-Grips. However, out in the open, they would be simple to remove with any kind of pliers because they have splined bodies; lots of nice sharp edges to grab hold of...

McGard 'tuner' wheel locks are a VERY shallow key design. The outside surface of the wheel lock is hard, smooth, rounded and chrome-plated. It's going to take hella work getting them off, even though they are totally exposed.

I don't know how much simpler I can make this. If your lug nuts are sitting deep down inside holes in your wheels, get McGard Spline Drive wheel locks. If your lug nuts are 'blowing in the breeze', use McGard 'tuner' wheel locks.

BlackDeuceCoupe

Yes, that is what you want if you have external lug nuts...

EG_Si

sorry about the frustration i may be causing u.. im a n00b at this..

but yea.. i tottaly understand waht you're gettin at now..
i think ill just stick w/ my tuners then

BlackDeuceCoupe

No problem!

One other thing... It's important to use lug nuts, and wheel locks, that match the seating surface of the wheel. The stock OEM wheels and lug nuts use a spherical shaped seating surface. They are hard as hell to find. That's why I bought mine at the Honda dealer.

Most aftermarket wheels use a conical shaped seating surface, and need lug nuts to match. Make sure you get wheel locks (and lug nuts) whose seating surface matches that of the aftermarket wheels you own.

PSU

iTrader: (2)

nice wheels

trbob16a

Ever see the infomercial for the socket wrench that has a bunch of rods in it? Then when you press it on, it forms to whatever shape/size the nut is so you can use it on anything. Theives have it. Your best bet is to keep your car in a garage.

JDM_Sol

i like

AWD: Jeff

ive heard bad stories from thos lug nuts. from what a shop told me one of there customers had it and the lugnuts got striped. another said one of there cars the lugnuts didnt hold up well. and the owner of the shop didnt recommend geting these

BrokenLimits

Not to thread jack but I like my OEM Honda wheel locks anyone ever have problems with these?

EG_Si

thanks man.. yea actually.. i have the buddy club nuts that go w/ the wheels.. so im all good. its just the locks that i need.. ill swing by a tire shop this weekend ofr a quick consult and see wuts up..

EG_Si

yea.. gator grip right? i was wondeirng about that.. does that open all these locks?


hmm. so what did the owner recommend?


thanks guys! ill get better pix up once i get a chance to take better pix

smnowell

Buddy Clubs...i miss mine What kinda tires did you get with your rims?