sohctodohc

i might be selling my 94 civic ex. here in a couple days and i have my eyes set on a 99 or 00 civic si. i was wanting to know are the si's worth the money and how does the motor respond to mods????

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no torque.

sohctodohc

does it feel better then a 94 civic ex with i\h\e????

klungemonger

Torque or not, it's still a fun car to drive and looks good too. If you want torque later on you can get a B18 or B20 shortblock for pretty cheap.

fsufan814

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i wouldnt even bother switching over the a b16a2 Si, stock the best ive seen one run is 16flat, maybe on a good day you can get one to run 15.9, but for the 4 - 9 grand price difference your gonna pay between the 2 cars i dont see how you can justify that, you wont be any faster and you could easily just buy or build up your own turbo setup and still be cheaper and wayyy faster

dont waste your time unless your into hype and into wasting money

sohctodohc

or im into a kid giving me 5000 grand for my car with i/h/e and aftermarket headlights and bumpers.... i also bought it with 93,000 miles on it for 4,000. and now it has 137.000 on it and im getting a extra grand out of it i think im doing pretty good

rusted_eyes

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dont waste your time unless your into hype and into wasting money</TD></TR></TABLE>


I am! thats why I got a 99 Si it's a fun and beautiful car to drive, and no torque is fun too If you have the money and want to get it then get it. It's your car get what YOU want!

fsufan814

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I am! thats why I got a 99 Si it's a fun and beautiful car to drive, and no torque is fun too If you have the money and want to get it then get it. It's your car get what YOU want!</TD></TR></TABLE>


sounds good stay slow

skunk2eg

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohctodohc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does it feel better then a 94 civic ex with i\h\e???? </TD></TR></TABLE>no....all it has is one more cam, a glorified D16Z6, you will feel no differnce before it hits vtec

jdm123

z6 puts out more torque i believe

skunk2eg

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no.... the b16 puts out like 5 more lbs/ft or something close to that

ScubaStevo80

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I think you're thinking of a z06

jbscivichb92

better yet you can find a cheaper civic and get a jdm b16 with more power than the b16a2

fsufan814

b16a2 is a b16a2, only power difference is in the cat and no cat

handa

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what does this mean? i believe i might have a blown cat...so i just want to know.

jbscivichb92

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so you mean to tell me the jdm b16a sir2 has the same amount of hp as the usdm b16a2???

fsufan814

jdm is 170hp and us is 160hp look up the figures, then look at the motor specs, find a difference other than one having no cat please i would like to know bc there isnt one, possibly the ecu might have different maps but that would be about the only thing other than no cat

Falqon

The pistons are different, which results in a higher compression ratio. Why don't you do some homework before spouting bs.

I drive the DOHC, I'd take it over the Z6 every day of the week. 8.2k redline is just more fun, your SOHC doesn't do it. It's going to knock off much more from your 1/4 mile than this hondapimp person claims, heck if he knew what he was talking about, he wouldn't be spouting bs about catalytic converters. If you want torque, then you shouldn't be driving a Honda, B18, B20, none of them have anything compared to real torque.

fsufan814

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Falqon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The pistons are different, which results in a higher compression ratio. Why don't you do some homework before spouting bs.

I drive the DOHC, I'd take it over the Z6 every day of the week. 8.2k redline is just more fun, your SOHC doesn't do it. It's going to knock off much more from your 1/4 mile than this hondapimp person claims, heck if he knew what he was talking about, he wouldn't be spouting bs about catalytic converters. If you want torque, then you shouldn't be driving a Honda, B18, B20, none of them have anything compared to real torque.
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10:2(usdm) and 10.4:1(jdm) compression is not 10HP so how about you do YOUR hw

if you wanna get TRUELY technically its bc they rate theirs in PS not in HP, and if you wanna get even more technically hp is an imagniary # anyhow

dont step to me little child

Falqon

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You're the one sitting here saying "find a difference other than one having not cat"

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if you wanna get TRUELY technically its bc they rate theirs in PS not in HP, and if you wanna get even more technically hp is an imagniary # anyhow
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That's not technical, that's stupid. They make ~168-170hp at the crank, I couldn't care less how imaginary you think it is or how "they" measure it.

sohctodohc, find someone smarter than this piece of work before you go deciding anything. Better yet, find a DOHC to drive and see for yourself.

fsufan814

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he should listen to you im sure .2 compression raise is 10hp? that must mean when i go from 9-12:1 on the motor im building that im gonna go up 150hp?

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Lucky_Smurf

The 99-00 si's are fun to drive with I/h/e they aren't really all that fast but high reving and a good time. I personally would rather have a b series than a d series. More potential really. However, look at your overall budget and whp desire then you can make an educated decision. Plus it's always nice to drive a newer car than some old rattle trap piece of crap.

I personnally have a 00 SI and it's fun as hell but I've dumped a ****-load of money into it.

Tofu00

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I personnally have a 00 SI and it's fun as hell but I've dumped a ****-load of money into it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

sohctodohc

for one i like hearing vtec and the sohc just doesnt have it and 2 i like the looks of the si. 3 i think there is alot more potential in the b series motors. 4 i like hearing vtec did i say that already???

Falqon

sohc has vtec,

vtec has never really made me that amazed, it's cool and a little louder but I know of really nice B20's or B18's that don't have the vtec and are still freakin fast.