Lots of Oil Leaking from Back of Block, need help!!!!
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Lots of Oil Leaking from Back of Block, need help!!!!
So I've been leaking oil for quite a while now, and I finally had the chance to degrease the engine and get the car up to take some pictures and look for leaks. My first thought was a head gasket leak, but after 30 minutes of no leaks or bubbles around it, I figured that's not my problem. I did however, manage to find a lot of oil coming out of (or above) what looks to me like the shift linkage. Those pictures below are of the what I think is my shift linkage (correct me if I'm wrong) and the back of my oil pan, where it looks like more oil is leaking out of. The gold oil drain plug seems to have some oil dripping down to it, but I believe it is from above it, where the back of the oil pan meets the block. From what I felt I figured out, the oil pan gasket in (mainly the intake side of the block) has a leak, and somewhere above or around the shift linkage is leaking down onto the shift linkage and dripping from there. Hopefully you guys can help me out and tell me where to start to get this oil to stop leaking. I know my shift linkage looks like someone took a hammer to it, so that may be a start, but I'm leaking a lot of oil, as you can see in the picture of what I have below the car where the oil is leaking onto, so I feel like there is a lot more work to be done. PLEASE HELP!
Ask me what you need and give me your critical criticism if necessary! I need this oil leak gone!
BTW : Engine is a B18B1 with a B16 Head. Not sure about transmission. Car is a 92 EG Hatchback
Ask me what you need and give me your critical criticism if necessary! I need this oil leak gone!
BTW : Engine is a B18B1 with a B16 Head. Not sure about transmission. Car is a 92 EG Hatchback
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Re: Lots of Oil Leaking from Back of Block, need help!!!!
Im going to try and not sound like a jerk.
There is a lot of jerry rig in those pics that i would hope you would fix asap.
shift linkage pin is a bolt?
the bushing for your shift linkage is completely shot and is about 10 bucks to fix, please do so.
you should buy some spring loaded header to exhaust bolts; i got some chrysler bolts for 5 bucks from advance auto parts that fit perfectly.
ok that all being said; did you check your oil filter?
I had a similar leak but it was from the oil pan gasket so that is another area i might just replace because its so cheap to do so. you really need to clean all of the oil off so you can see exactly where its coming from. when oil leaks and falls if it hits moving parts like the half shaft it will throw oil everywhere and you will have no clue where the leak is. seeing the oil on the header made me ask about the oil filter, ls vtec sandwhich adapter?
good luck.
There is a lot of jerry rig in those pics that i would hope you would fix asap.
shift linkage pin is a bolt?
the bushing for your shift linkage is completely shot and is about 10 bucks to fix, please do so.
you should buy some spring loaded header to exhaust bolts; i got some chrysler bolts for 5 bucks from advance auto parts that fit perfectly.
ok that all being said; did you check your oil filter?
I had a similar leak but it was from the oil pan gasket so that is another area i might just replace because its so cheap to do so. you really need to clean all of the oil off so you can see exactly where its coming from. when oil leaks and falls if it hits moving parts like the half shaft it will throw oil everywhere and you will have no clue where the leak is. seeing the oil on the header made me ask about the oil filter, ls vtec sandwhich adapter?
good luck.
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Im going to try and not sound like a jerk.
There is a lot of jerry rig in those pics that i would hope you would fix asap.
shift linkage pin is a bolt?
the bushing for your shift linkage is completely shot and is about 10 bucks to fix, please do so.
you should buy some spring loaded header to exhaust bolts; i got some chrysler bolts for 5 bucks from advance auto parts that fit perfectly.
ok that all being said; did you check your oil filter?
I had a similar leak but it was from the oil pan gasket so that is another area i might just replace because its so cheap to do so. you really need to clean all of the oil off so you can see exactly where its coming from. when oil leaks and falls if it hits moving parts like the half shaft it will throw oil everywhere and you will have no clue where the leak is. seeing the oil on the header made me ask about the oil filter, ls vtec sandwhich adapter?
good luck.
There is a lot of jerry rig in those pics that i would hope you would fix asap.
shift linkage pin is a bolt?
the bushing for your shift linkage is completely shot and is about 10 bucks to fix, please do so.
you should buy some spring loaded header to exhaust bolts; i got some chrysler bolts for 5 bucks from advance auto parts that fit perfectly.
ok that all being said; did you check your oil filter?
I had a similar leak but it was from the oil pan gasket so that is another area i might just replace because its so cheap to do so. you really need to clean all of the oil off so you can see exactly where its coming from. when oil leaks and falls if it hits moving parts like the half shaft it will throw oil everywhere and you will have no clue where the leak is. seeing the oil on the header made me ask about the oil filter, ls vtec sandwhich adapter?
good luck.
THANK YOU SO MUCH! Yeah, I know it's kind of taboo, but I bought the car and swap off some guys who had the swap done at some other shop, I've been trying to work while my oil has been leaking and save up some money to get the oil leak figured out and fixed. This is the figuring part, and the fixing will be soon.
Are the shift linkage pin and bushing a possible cause to leaking oil? I'll check out those chrysler bolts. Pretty sure it's possible it may be coming from the steel braided hose coming out by the oil filter, the oil filter is definitely screwed in and the filter itself is not leaking, however maybe something around it is. Not entirely familiar with the sandwich plate, but maybe that's a possible cause too.
Thanks for your reply!
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Re: Lots of Oil Leaking from Back of Block, need help!!!!
Idk about your oil leak but you need a set of these before you F up your linkage. That end by the tranny has a **** load of play. I know you got a B series just by looking at it. You must have problems shifting i bet. here is the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Energ...Q5fAccessories
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Energ...Q5fAccessories
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Re: Lots of Oil Leaking from Back of Block, need help!!!!
no problem, i had an ls/vtec and used the golden eagle sandwhich adpater that way you just run a braided hose for vtec. this could be the source of your problem as well because that line is under a lot of psi so check there. honestly if someone built all that then you should thoroughly go over everything and double check to make sure things are tight etc. the shift linkage bushing isnt a cause for the leak but its something you deff. want to fix asap. im sure they used that bolt because they lost or broke the "bitch pin" for the shiftlinkage but check the other side to make sure it has a fastener atleast. you should have a crush washer for your oil pan drain plug as well...again all of these parts i have said to replace will cost about 30 bucks max and just take some manual labor. i wouldnt drive my car if i had those issues.
also you might want to check the cotter pins on your suspension and make sure you even have them.....that could be devastating if not.
yes buy those that he listed.
also you might want to check the cotter pins on your suspension and make sure you even have them.....that could be devastating if not.
yes buy those that he listed.
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Idk about your oil leak but you need a set of these before you F up your linkage. That end by the tranny has a **** load of play. I know you got a B series just by looking at it. You must have problems shifting i bet. here is the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Energ...Q5fAccessories
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Energ...Q5fAccessories
Thanks!
no problem, i had an ls/vtec and used the golden eagle sandwhich adpater that way you just run a braided hose for vtec. this could be the source of your problem as well because that line is under a lot of psi so check there. honestly if someone built all that then you should thoroughly go over everything and double check to make sure things are tight etc. the shift linkage bushing isnt a cause for the leak but its something you deff. want to fix asap. im sure they used that bolt because they lost or broke the "bitch pin" for the shiftlinkage but check the other side to make sure it has a fastener atleast. you should have a crush washer for your oil pan drain plug as well...again all of these parts i have said to replace will cost about 30 bucks max and just take some manual labor. i wouldnt drive my car if i had those issues.
also you might want to check the cotter pins on your suspension and make sure you even have them.....that could be devastating if not.
yes buy those that he listed.
also you might want to check the cotter pins on your suspension and make sure you even have them.....that could be devastating if not.
yes buy those that he listed.
Thanks again
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hey man not a problem; everybody has to learn. those bushings i have had on my car for about 5 years and they still feel fine. yes that should eliminate the sloppy feel you probably are experiencing. it will be night and day after you install those and it will be one of the best purchases for 15-16 bucks in your life.
pizza guy driving a lot; i would really get your money maker healthy.
i wasnt saying to buy the adapter plate but to see if you have one since you said you have an ls vtec. there are 2 ways to do the ls vtec and the adapter plate imo is the easiest. take a picture of the oil filter area and i can tell you. here is my old one.
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/8608/dscn03310cf.jpg
pizza guy driving a lot; i would really get your money maker healthy.
i wasnt saying to buy the adapter plate but to see if you have one since you said you have an ls vtec. there are 2 ways to do the ls vtec and the adapter plate imo is the easiest. take a picture of the oil filter area and i can tell you. here is my old one.
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/8608/dscn03310cf.jpg
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Re: Lots of Oil Leaking from Back of Block, need help!!!!
hey man not a problem; everybody has to learn. those bushings i have had on my car for about 5 years and they still feel fine. yes that should eliminate the sloppy feel you probably are experiencing. it will be night and day after you install those and it will be one of the best purchases for 15-16 bucks in your life.
pizza guy driving a lot; i would really get your money maker healthy.
i wasnt saying to buy the adapter plate but to see if you have one since you said you have an ls vtec. there are 2 ways to do the ls vtec and the adapter plate imo is the easiest. take a picture of the oil filter area and i can tell you. here is my old one.
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/8608/dscn03310cf.jpg
pizza guy driving a lot; i would really get your money maker healthy.
i wasnt saying to buy the adapter plate but to see if you have one since you said you have an ls vtec. there are 2 ways to do the ls vtec and the adapter plate imo is the easiest. take a picture of the oil filter area and i can tell you. here is my old one.
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/8608/dscn03310cf.jpg
Thanks again bro!
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Good put them and and youll see the shifting difference. Even better combo with a sk2 **** and shifter. Thats what i have.
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Re: Lots of Oil Leaking from Back of Block, need help!!!!
its gotta be coming from the filter area or the oil pan. the last spot would be the rear main seal but you would have oil on the flywheel?
what block do you have? breather box on the back maybe leaking?
what block do you have? breather box on the back maybe leaking?
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B18B1 Block. Not sure where the breather box is. How can I check for oil on the flywheel? Sorry for nubish questions!
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Thanks! Are there any remove/replace directions on that part? I'll check out the sk2 know and shifter(is that a short throw single bend?). Thanks for the advice!
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Here is a link on how to do it. Note this DIY shows to install the bushings and the SK2 shifter if you ever do decide to get it. Wish the best for you and G/L finding that leak. Keep us updated or keep me updated on the bushings. Pm me if you got any Q's.
http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=106789
http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=106789
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Re: Lots of Oil Leaking from Back of Block, need help!!!!
OK b18b wouldnt have the breather box on the back so thats eliminated. flywheel doesnt look like it has oil on it from your pictures.
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Check dizzy o ring or the VTEC solenoid gasket since you said you have LSV setup. Check the oil line that goes from Sandwich adapter to the head also.
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BTW: My cel throws the code -- 21 VTEC spool solenoid valve, 22 VTEC pressure valve every now and then, but I thought it was just because I get so low on oil because I leak so much, that the vtec solenoid doesn't have enough oil to build up pressure.
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I just took some more pictures of some stuff that caught my eye. Hopefully you guys can help me... Oil leak is first priority, but there is some other stuff I feel needs to be fixed too. Thanks!!!
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Where is the highest point of oil covering the motor? That will give you an indication of where the leak is coming from. My brother has the same problem on his LS. We think it is the cam seals either worn or broken. By the way your shift linkage bolt bracket is jacked up!
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Where is the highest point of oil covering the motor? That will give you an indication of where the leak is coming from. My brother has the same problem on his LS. We think it is the cam seals either worn or broken. By the way your shift linkage bolt bracket is jacked up!
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wait, this is only on the back? Is this a 4dr GSR? I ask because Gsr's have a integrated factory oil cooler that trades the heat from the oil into the coolant system by running the pipes onto eachother in a way that they don't mix fluids. If that oil line is broken, your leak would appear not much higher than the oil filter as this is where tha cooler is located. hope this helps!
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wait, this is only on the back? Is this a 4dr GSR? I ask because Gsr's have a integrated factory oil cooler that trades the heat from the oil into the coolant system by running the pipes onto eachother in a way that they don't mix fluids. If that oil line is broken, your leak would appear not much higher than the oil filter as this is where tha cooler is located. hope this helps!
\Thanks!
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The highest point is right on the front left corner (exhaust side) of the block. A little below the head gasket. I don't think there is any other oil above that. It's mainly dripping down onto my headers and oil pan and onto the ground. I don't think it's the cam seals, what he leaking a lot of oil? I've got so much leaking. But my cam seals look dry.
A little below the head gasket, or probably fromt he head gasket? That would mean taking the head off and retorqing the head on.
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