cr00klyn718

which tires are more fit for daily driving??? i like the falken azenis but they tread looks like they would wear out fast compared to the 712's .....can someone with the tires gimme some insight ..holla

hipnotize

i had the falken and i loved them but they wear down hella fast and they suck *** in the rain but they grab like a mother ******.

cr00klyn718

thanks....i figured they wear down fast just by lookin at em..but they are some tight *** looking tires though

CivicSiRacer

I have both. But my Azenis are my competition tires. They DO NOT SUCK in the rain - they are actually better in the rain than the 712s, but the 712s will wear a bit longer than the Azenis. My last set of 712s lasted about 30K miles. My Azenis should last about 20K miles.

TurboSedan

I favor the Azenis. The minor lack of milage is more than made up for by the extra grip they provide. They are a lot more fun to drive hard on, and certianly are a better competition tire than the 712's!

94CivicSi

iTrader: (1)

I heard the Azenis are good on wet roads, but not on standing water, like large puddles. Can you confirm or deny those reports CivicSiRacer?

I got caught in a couple of huge downpours yesterday and my 712's were brilliant.

Black_eh2

kumho sucks. falkenz or yoko's

CivicSiRacer

Any tire going through standing water will have problems. Just avoid them. And how often do you encounter standing water? I sure as heck don't - and must avoid them just incase since I a cold air intake.

94CivicSi

iTrader: (1)

I don't mean deep water, just puddles. Yah, my 712's will hydroplane above a certain speed. I'm just wondering if the Falkens hydroplane at a much lower speed bcasue there's so much less siping to evacuate water.

Eyewitness

i would think the 712's would do better in puddles

92sleepR

I like the 712's They are a great 'beginner' competition tire because they provide a lot of feedback at the limit. They are plenty sticky for me and they arn't too loud.

Mike


[Modified by 92sleepR, 5:56 PM 6/17/2002]

ITRacer121

I like the 712's b/c they last longer
I dont drive my baby in the rain NEways (thats what girl friends are for)

BakedCookies

I had no problems in my car with the azenis in standing/puddled water or downpour, they actually are one of the best tires i have ever used, with the exception of the now defunct yokohama AVSi... azenis are a great choice

TurboSedan

I currently and working on killing my 195/60VR14 AVS-I, which I love in the dry and light rain. In moderate to heavy rain they suck, but I knew that to begin with so I just slow down. After these die, I am going to Azenis RS. My friend has them on his WRX and can't believe how good they are.

taytay333

I have the Kumhos and they are quiet, and perform well in all conditions. If you are looking for a good daily driver tire then I would recommend these. Smooth ride, lasts long(er), quiet, and still performs.

functionFiRst

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