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03-06-2007, 02:13 PM
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Ok so I was at the local junkyard today and I came across a few engines. I found a D16a1(ZC), a F22, and a B18(not sure about the rest of the number), and I was wondering which one would you rather have? The guy told me to come back with $400 and I might even be able to get tranny with each engine as well.
How much would it cost to get the engine and tranny rebuilt? For future reference I have a 94 civic CX hatch.
How much would it cost to get the engine and tranny rebuilt? For future reference I have a 94 civic CX hatch.
03-06-2007, 02:17 PM
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depending on what kind of b18 it is i would prob go that route, your not going to beable to go f22 or atleast its deff not worth it. a d16a1 is a old old prelude motor if i am not mistaken or and old old integra motor. not sure but either or the only choice u have is pretty much the b18, unless you want the d16 block but.
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Re: (aaron590)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aaron590 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what's the difference between all the b18's?</TD></TR></TABLE>
B18A1 = 90-93 integra LS/RS/GS dohc no vtec
B18B=94-? integra LS/RS/GS dohc no vtec
B18C1=94+GSR dohc vtec
B18C5=ITR USDM dohc vtec
all in all go for the B series if its in good condition
plus i think theres a law against putting an older engine then the chassis example if its a 93 teg you cant put a 92- motor in it, so i have heard....correct me if im wrong.
Modified by integrada9 at 7:32 PM 3/6/2007
B18A1 = 90-93 integra LS/RS/GS dohc no vtec
B18B=94-? integra LS/RS/GS dohc no vtec
B18C1=94+GSR dohc vtec
B18C5=ITR USDM dohc vtec
all in all go for the B series if its in good condition
plus i think theres a law against putting an older engine then the chassis example if its a 93 teg you cant put a 92- motor in it, so i have heard....correct me if im wrong.Modified by integrada9 at 7:32 PM 3/6/2007
03-06-2007, 02:43 PM
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The engine is gonna be taken to a shop for a rebuild but would the b18's all fit? Also, I heard that I would need a new ecu. Could someone explain what an obd0, obd1, and obd2 is
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03-06-2007, 02:49 PM
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Re: (integrada9)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integrada9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
B18A1 = 90-93 integra LS/RS/GS
B18B=94-? integra LS/RS/GS
B18C1=94+GSR
B18C5=ITR USDM
all in all go for the B series if its in good condition plus i think theres a law against putting an older engine then the chassis example if its a 93 teg you cant put a 92- motor in it, so i have heard....correct me if im wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you live in cali where the state bends you over and rams you in your ***. Anywhere else they dont inspect this,and there is no need to.
B18A1 = 90-93 integra LS/RS/GS
B18B=94-? integra LS/RS/GS
B18C1=94+GSR
B18C5=ITR USDM
all in all go for the B series if its in good condition
plus i think theres a law against putting an older engine then the chassis example if its a 93 teg you cant put a 92- motor in it, so i have heard....correct me if im wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>If you live in cali where the state bends you over and rams you in your ***. Anywhere else they dont inspect this,and there is no need to.
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Re: (aaron590)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aaron590 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The engine is gonna be taken to a shop for a rebuild but would the b18's all fit? Also, I heard that I would need a new ecu. Could someone explain what an obd0, obd1, and obd2 is</TD></TR></TABLE>
It depends what car you want to put it into and what model of B18 it is.
OBD stands for on-board diagnostics, OBD0, OBD1, and OBD2 are just different generations of the program. If you are pulling the swap from a car in a junkyard, just grab the ECU while you're at it.
It depends what car you want to put it into and what model of B18 it is.
OBD stands for on-board diagnostics, OBD0, OBD1, and OBD2 are just different generations of the program. If you are pulling the swap from a car in a junkyard, just grab the ECU while you're at it.
03-06-2007, 02:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostedb20EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you live in cali where the state bends you over and rams you in your ***. Anywhere else they dont inspect this,and there is no need to.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ah makes sence i read about that law somewhere on HT i think the integra forum
If you live in cali where the state bends you over and rams you in your ***. Anywhere else they dont inspect this,and there is no need to.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ah makes sence
i read about that law somewhere on HT i think the integra forum
03-06-2007, 03:09 PM
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The lower the OBD number the easier it is to get it chipped/tuned/better mappings.People go from obd2 to obd1 or 0 but i think you can run into problems doing that if you live in ca.Not a problem for you as you have the D15B8,OBD1.Get the B18.B18C has VTEC while B18A or B18B dont have VTEC.Both 1.8liter engines however the B18B is slighly bigger than the C.Its got less power tho.
03-06-2007, 03:28 PM
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B18 anything is better than an F22 or D16a1 - both are SOHC non-VTEC motors and aren't exactly top of the line - then top it off w/ the F22 being weak and a more complicated swap than a B or D series motor and you have yourself two failure motors.
Yes Bisimoto runs 9's on his F22 but it's in no way, shape, or form a normal motor...especially when he has 17:1 CR pistons.
B18b/a, LS - good motor, very torquey, very good for boost
B18C1, GSR - very good daily driver, bit more torque than the LS, plus it have VTEC, more aggressive fuel tables, more aggressive cams, etc, drops like 180 at the flywheel.
B18C5, ITR, very powerful naturally aspired motor, horribly overpriced in my opinion, doubt you'll find one in a junk yard.
LS motors are good even w/o VTEC as they dump an assload of torque (almost as much as the GSR I think) down and they're cheap as **** (like 500 bucks). Trannies are too long, GSR or B16 swaps right over and is commonly used w/ LS motors. They also make good boost motors.
Yes Bisimoto runs 9's on his F22 but it's in no way, shape, or form a normal motor...especially when he has 17:1 CR pistons.
B18b/a, LS - good motor, very torquey, very good for boost
B18C1, GSR - very good daily driver, bit more torque than the LS, plus it have VTEC, more aggressive fuel tables, more aggressive cams, etc, drops like 180 at the flywheel.
B18C5, ITR, very powerful naturally aspired motor, horribly overpriced in my opinion, doubt you'll find one in a junk yard.
LS motors are good even w/o VTEC as they dump an assload of torque (almost as much as the GSR I think) down and they're cheap as **** (like 500 bucks). Trannies are too long, GSR or B16 swaps right over and is commonly used w/ LS motors. They also make good boost motors.
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Re: (Syndacate)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B18 anything is better than an F22 or D16a1 - both are SOHC non-VTEC motors and aren't exactly top of the line - then top it off w/ the F22 being weak and a more complicated swap than a B or D series motor and you have yourself two failure motors.
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D16A1 is actually DOHC non-vtec.
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D16A1 is actually DOHC non-vtec.
03-06-2007, 03:33 PM
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D16A1 is actually DOHC non-vtec.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh, I stand corrected.
D16A1 is actually DOHC non-vtec.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh, I stand corrected.
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B18b/a, LS - good motor, very torquey, very good for boost
B18C1, GSR - very good daily driver, bit more torque than the LS, plus it have VTEC, more aggressive fuel tables, more aggressive cams, etc, drops like 180 at the flywheel.
B18C5, ITR, very powerful naturally aspired motor, horribly overpriced in my opinion, doubt you'll find one in a junk yard.
LS motors are good even w/o VTEC as they dump an assload of torque (almost as much as the GSR I think) down and they're cheap as **** (like 500 bucks). Trannies are too long, GSR or B16 swaps right over and is commonly used w/ LS motors. They also make good boost motors.
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True B18C1s have just a little bit more torque than the B18B but its about the same.
No the B18C1 will not deliver 180hp at the wheels no way.Considering a B18C5 has 200hp,tranny loss 10-15% thats about 170-175hp.The B18C1 has 180 crank hp.Beats on B16s stock but it should have around 155-160 whp.B16as have 170 crank hp.
Anways B18Bs are really cheap and good for boost.NO VTEC tho. True,they have long trannies but you can change em to B18C/B16 trannies easily.Direct fit.
B18b/a, LS - good motor, very torquey, very good for boost
B18C1, GSR - very good daily driver, bit more torque than the LS, plus it have VTEC, more aggressive fuel tables, more aggressive cams, etc, drops like 180 at the flywheel.
B18C5, ITR, very powerful naturally aspired motor, horribly overpriced in my opinion, doubt you'll find one in a junk yard.
LS motors are good even w/o VTEC as they dump an assload of torque (almost as much as the GSR I think) down and they're cheap as **** (like 500 bucks). Trannies are too long, GSR or B16 swaps right over and is commonly used w/ LS motors. They also make good boost motors.
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True B18C1s have just a little bit more torque than the B18B but its about the same.
No the B18C1 will not deliver 180hp at the wheels no way.Considering a B18C5 has 200hp,tranny loss 10-15% thats about 170-175hp.The B18C1 has 180 crank hp.Beats on B16s stock but it should have around 155-160 whp.B16as have 170 crank hp.
Anways B18Bs are really cheap and good for boost.NO VTEC tho. True,they have long trannies but you can change em to B18C/B16 trannies easily.Direct fit.
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ok so if the engine is an obd1 non vtec then I can use mine? Only certain b18's are good naturally aspired? Why so? If I can push around 300 whp without turbo then I don't really see the need to turbo it because this car is a daily driver.
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Re: (Syndacate)
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thats not the first time lol
you just suck
thats not the first time lol
you just suck
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thats not the first time lol
you just suck </TD></TR></TABLE>
haha, i can already see where this is goin. .
thats not the first time lol
you just suck
</TD></TR></TABLE>haha, i can already see where this is goin. .
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thats not the first time lol
you just suck </TD></TR></TABLE>
hahaha.. x2
thats not the first time lol
you just suck
</TD></TR></TABLE>hahaha.. x2
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the d16a1 actually bolts up to the stock eg civic mounts except for the rear motor mount, you have to make a custom mount, or not, my friend didnt in his eg civic but he said it would shake a ton around 80mph