arcboy

I am a fan of the JDM (clean) style, but what is it really?

I own a 92 hatch w/ a B18C1 with I/H/E and a decent system, GSR interior, and some HX wheels. I want the a lot of the JDM parts on my car and am a big fan of the JDM or clean rides.

I don't care for the ricey look with all the stickers and make my car look like a big buletin board or mural.

I know it is what the Japanese cars look like, but isn't it a shame that we have to make our US cars like a factory JDM car. Is there a look that the US could start besides the rice fest that has already occured with Fast and The Furious representing us like all we care about is how many stikcers we have, who has the biggest tip, who can make their car the brightest color.

Half of the people who make their 5th gens a "Type R", really aren't a type r. They take type r parts and put them in a civic and call it a CTR, but really it is supposed to be a SIR. Last time I knew they was never a 5th gen CTR, just until the 6th gens came out. I know the whole point behind the CTR is to take type r parts and put them in your civic but that doesn't make it a CTR.

A lot of guys are going to drag strips saying hay I got some spoon and mugen parts, but wait they originally for the road courses.

I am not here to say anything bad, but lets hear some opinions about the whole JDM scene.

JaeOne3345

hmm seems like no one wants to reply so i would i felt this was a good post. it reminded me of slide squad daves few words on the whole jdm whorism:

"Dude I'll tell you one thing worse than rice, JDM!! hahahah, what a joke, Im sorry but Hondas are VERY unpopular amongst racers in Japan, there are just too many other choices for less money that are a bit better, plenty of old women drive EKs not to say that you dont see your fair share of Rs at the circuit, cause you DO! , hey I happen to think Honda is one of the very best companies, with a rich racing heritage, and a clear comitment to motorsports.. but to say that Stanley corners, and a motor swap is JDM, well Im not sure. You see Japanese Domestic Market I believe also holds true to the attitude, and ability of the owner/vehicle... In Japan, to have a car that is simple, and truly sporty with ability to perform on and off track, is really all that describes the market, upgrades are typically simple, seats, steering wheel, small interior knick-knacks, mostly things the driver can touch and feel, to give them a better feel of the car and of course to feel sporty i suppose. To me the term JDM is far too loosely applied, its a culture of folks who truly feel motorsports, through themselves and their cars, when the sound of a backfire at the end of a straight gives you goosebumps, and going through a set of brake pads in a weekend doesnt upset you, and is actually considered, an accomplishment... obviously there is the literal term for JDM, well then you might be pretty darn close to that...but there is no way to put a sticker on your car that shows the feeling of waking up on a cold Japanese fall morning, trasckside, with thte sounds of V10s whining through the Spoon curve, or the distinct note of the straight 6s clutching it, before the hairpin getting sideways... these things i feel are so overlooked by enthusiasts, Power, Style, abiltiy... these truly are last in the line of the Drivers needs, it comes down to passion for motorsports, or simply the freedom of starting up your car and getting away... when I think about buying a car, I say to myself, would I be excited simply to wake up early, and wash that car... vaccum the interior, get coffee and a donut before hitting the canyons as the fog clears....HAHAHAHAHAH **** RICE!!!!! I hate that ****! clear this, colored that! SHUT UP!! do it right ********! JDM!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA...... "

pretty good lil passage he wrote there. makes u think. what is jdm? i always thought japanese cars should be done like the majority of carsin japan involved in motorsports. just as dave said..parts put on our functional, clean, not too outlandish and such with a few things to enhance cosmetic items. but i dont know about the word jdm. it just seems like it should be called common sense. jdm has been thrown around so much that kids think its about installing some slightly different interior pieces from the japanese equivalent of a car. look at ebay. kids biddin ridiculous prices on clocks cuz they r orange..ctr climate controls..etc etc.str8 whorism. where do u draw the line. if u dont think its ridiculous just stop and look at this: http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d10278956 the rolls r reversed..i bet u r like "omg ****** idiots". i wonder what they say when kids nutride on an orange faced clock..or the blue eg6 vin tag to install on their american cx..lol.is this what u call "jdm" or is just stupidity. i cant way til i see or hear of a japanese kid saying "ooh look american hatch carpet". theres this big blow up on "jdm" or whatever u wanna call them parts like spoon and mugen etc etc. most of these parts are circuit bred, yet people buying these parts and only care about 1320 times only..nothin wrong with 1320 if that tickles your fancy, but what u need tein suspension etc etc for drag and street racing. buying mugen strut bars..yet u dont give a **** about using your steering wheel. thats like buying soccer cleats for the basketball court.

so what is "jdm" to you?

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kefka

iTrader: (1)

jdm is the trend, why did people have big *** hair in the 80's? why did kids invest thousands in small little cardboard circles called pogs?why ask why...

the honda scene is changing daily,new body styles new parts new everything...thats not gonna change.i have my style and you have yours i have parts on my car that serve my own tastes.people who have accidentially started the five spoke flat black,carbon fiber nice and clean trend originally were just rich kids who could afford 2500$ wheels and nice *** hoods...buuuut they put all of that stuff to goof use.
miguel dumps thousands and thousands into his clean ek hatch and he puts all of it to good use.there is no "jdm" spoon wheels are forged in russia.and dc products are found on many of the japanese hondas...its a scene.

MGD

Some people don't exactly put on these ctr,itr parts just to make their car look like something....Some people actually put this stuff(wheels,brakes,suspension,motor) to enhance the performance of their vehicle. Us (northamericans) weren't blessed with most of the amenity's that are eastern counterparts possess.

B_CRUZ!

I prefer the CLEAN OEM LOOK. Plus who cares this will just start a flame war.


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JaeOne3345

u say oem parts? u mean parts that function or the jdm junk scrap memorabilia. theres a difference saying okay i want zeal coil overs because they r good quality..then saying "yo these jdm floormats is ill yo"..

functionFiRst

I'm pretty sure that i can speak for a lot of people when i say that JDM is a craze that in some ways is as bad as rice (fake aftermarket knick knacks: ie fake shift *****, strut bars, etc.) i personally like buying OEM Honda parts because i know that it is made with quality. Coming from honda you can expect that. To say that i love JDM is a false statement. i love cars that are clean, OEM, and has quality parts on a car to somehow enhance performance. IMO i'm not trying to flame anyone, but it sucks when people buy something like a spoon oil plug and then put spoon sports stickers all over their car. Hondas are great cars. thats why i bought one.

J T*

I think its funny that us U.S. Honda people think that copying what the Japanese Honda guys do is cool.

Can't we come up with something cool ourselves??? Maybe something that the Japanese guys would want to copy off of us?

B_CRUZ!

who cares. i mean just worry about your car and nobody elses right?

Mr. Thunderlips

first of all, that guy was a total dork, and the guys he kicked it with...all his freinds were throwing JDM parts on their cars and what not, which is why i dont understand why he wrote that...all that kid would talk about is japan this...japan that...well, im glad he went there and fufilled his JDM fantasies...personally, if people like putting orange clocks in their car thats cool, just as long as they understand that a cluster and climate control swap doesnt make a car faster, or more "JDM". personally, if i owned a 92-95 hatch, id swap out the climate control and cluster for the appearance alone...i dont care if it comes from africa! japan has nothing to do with my tastes...it just so happens that they have some cool misc. items there for hondas...the problem IMO comes from people that dont understand modifying cars in the first place...just plain ignorance...the bottom line is this: "JDM style" was an exclusive thing...and as soon as it caught on...it was "not the in thing" anymore...what i dont understand is all those "FFSquad" guys "JDM" the hell out of their cars...no one cracks on them?? why not, what makes them so different? everyone now says JDM isnt cool, but yet i see people posting pics of their cars every single day...what about shawn hilliers car?? his car is the ultimate JDM whorism car...but yet everyone worshipped it as if it was magical...WHY DOESNT EVERYONE JUST RELAX...let people do what they want...if someone wants to put stickers on their car, and huge wings...let them...if someone wants to put a japanese EG6 cluster in their CX...let them...theres nothing wrong with any of these things...

clean

it's kinda getting played out, but to the general public they cant tell the difference obviously. i seem to see that its the "other alternative" to "rice". i like some jdm stuff, but to make a whole car jdm and spend the mad cash is just stupid. to many jdm clones around. it gets old cause all it is is stock. i'm gonna start the new trend and make everything USDM. thats right usdm everything!!!! same w/ rota's, not too long ago everyone wanted pics of slipstreams on a red teg, then a silver hatch , then a black 5th gen hatch; please for gods sake stop. i know they are cheap and like and a great deal but it's getting lame. it's gotten to the point where people will roll around on clean steelies cause they are flat black. damm. but for the most part the jdm stuff seems like a waste because it's mostly apperance, like the 5th gen tails. the only difference is the reflector. then all the amber ****, who wants amber?, who wants **** green either, i want what an a4 vw has, that sweet neon blue!!!! thats nice. i like the momo jdm sterring wheels

JaeOne3345

word, i dont jock $50k show cars either...

Mr. Thunderlips

honestly...to me his car wasnt even close to a show car...it looked like a plain civic...with a bunch of little add on parts like a steering column light, and passanger side airbag pocket...i liked his car beacuse of the simplicity of it...but you know what, who am i to tell someone that what they do to their civic is wrong..? i used to be ultra-opinionated about what looked good on what car...but lately ive realized that theres always going to be some guys who hate on someones car no matter what...and i should accept hard work and personal style in everyones car...and to be totally honest, it makes me sick how much **** people talk in the import world...it makes me want to sell my integra and go buy a mustang...they seem more inviting to fellow drivers...honda guys for the most part are snobs...and always have something negative to say about someone elses car. i cant remember how many other guys i see driving hondas around my town, i try to say whats up, they get all defensive and want to race, or rev their engines at me...its just getting really old...all the hate...

J T*

I see no point in spending hundreds or thousands of dollars just to make my car look like a stock Honda that came from Japan. My "USDM" OEM components work just fine and I didn't even have to pay anything extra for them, and my stock headlamps, they work just as good as the JDM ones too, besides I can't even tell the difference with most of the JDM stuff anyways.

KrazeDx

yah too much hate man..Do what you want to do!

jonas

i already know this thread is gonna turn sour

J T*

I'm not hating on the JDM thing , I just don't understand the big deal. Why spend so much money on factory items, such as climate controls and clocks. I just don't get it.

Mr. Thunderlips

for some its just for somehting different than what US cars come with, for others, its an obsession of some kind...i cant speak for everybody, but i wasnt completely interested in JDM until i got my 2000 Si, which had the amber illumination...after that car was totaled, ive always wanted amber lights in my car again...i just cant bring myself to spend $200 on a guage cluster...

jonas

i understand people get "jdm" parts to be "different" .. even though its not succesful at doing. if you want to be different, umm.. u have the wrong car LOL.
everything with a honda has been done two times and then some.

personally i get whatever parts have proper fitment, have good quality, and look clean. wether it be "jdm" or "apc".... but apc doesnt have ONE product that fits any of those descriptions.. so lets not get into that.

all in all, get what you like, if its jdm or not.. who cares what other people say. if you get parts for your car on the basis of other peoples likings.. then you'll be one of the people who get tired of their car and their set up very quickly..

thats not good

samdawgsol

Hell NO, people dont compare the size of my car to my manhood.

infamousALLMTR

I think its funny how all of us desire something more never satisfied... <tear drop>
no really i like the sleeper JDM look but also like to be looked at, and on your ctr comment what makes a ctr a ctr? the whole package coming together or what if someone put every part of a ctr on there car well by golly its a ctr. If I wrote my mind we would have pages so I will leave it at this.

deepnite

JDM is like an old pair of jeans..they just keep getting more comfortable..then the finally fall off..OEM

hondafrk

JDM? wouldnt you guys think it would be funny to go to Japan to see all of the civic and tegs there and then you notice that a bunch of them look just like the stock ones in the US. And you think "man are those guys dumbasses or what, their cars are ugly as sin." Maybe the people in japan are doin the same thing that we are doing here. They might want all of their civics to look USDM. Anybody ever think of that? Just think about what they say when they come over to the US, "Hey look at all the stupid asses here, their cars are all stock. My 85 year old grandma drives a civic that looks just like that, they sure must think that they are cool." Im not hatin on the JDM style but some people are just too nuts about it. Personally to me a car doesnt have to look JDM to be cool. A super clean hatch usually gets more attention and comments than a hatch that looks JDM. There is nothing wrong with trying to make your cars look JDM, but there are so many ricers out there that there is just not a whole lot to do with your car to be different. I just like really clean cars!!!

Blazin Si

when i think of JDM, i think of function over appearance. i think a true JDM car has balance between acceleration, handling and braking. i see most people (like you said) put some spoon strut bars on their car and swap a B or H series engine into their car and call it JDM. i could be wrong though. i like to mod my car to what i think is JDM. who cares if i'm wrong, right? does it actually matter?


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JaeOne3345

i heard what u saying..people buyin road race bred parts..and never touch the circuit..no offense to those of u who do...but its like cleats for the basketball court


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