iheartktwenties

Can someone tell me what ITB's are? I hear people talk about them all the time and have no idea what they are. And if you could include pictures that would be great. Thanks.

Horseofcourse

Individual Throttle Bodies

Targa250R

Earthworm Jim

They're a good buy if you're going to go all motor.

ke98248

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They look flashy, but are a waste of $$ IMO..

Here's some more info:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1796381

t0p_sh0tta

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Explain how they're a waste of money please.

ke98248

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Turbo &gt; ITBs

CapnKrunch

Somebody in the other forum called them "Integra Throttle Bodies" roflmao.

They are Individual Throttle Bodies and they mean MADDDDD RESPONSE. You can throw them together your self with some motorcycle ITB's and your IM .

iheartktwenties

and if you install them it's still NA right?

imissmyhonda

they work well w boost also....

smileycvc

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It depends on what kind of build you want and what you are attempting to accomplish with the motor.

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Thats going to kind of hard if you want to stay all motor.

big22

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how would it not be NA? lol

Targa250R

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Turbo + ITBs &gt; *

big22

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not really worth it, u have to build a custom plenum to go over the itbs. All the itbs are going to do is help throttle response, u can make more power with a good IM.


Modified by big22 at 12:55 PM 8/18/2007

THC07

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NA means No Forced Induction, Naturally Aspirated. ITB do not force induct anything.

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lol, go buy them, after your first 5 tunes, when you think you got it right... tell us how much power you gained from them.

I should also add, only a hand full of ppl can actually tune these damn things

iheartktwenties

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big22

They just replace your Intake manifold and TB with 4 individual TB's

Earthworm Jim

The problem with ITB isn't really the system, it's the chemistry behind it. Hot air wants to seperate and all ITBs do is suck in straight hot air. There's no way (that I know of) to cool the air before or after those throttles are open. That's why your car picks up better in the morning than it does in the middle of the day, the air your car is taking in, plus your car being cold is already cool, making the air easily dispensed, making good power. ITB's increase your response but you're really not getting much out of that. They do increase torque, few people know how to tune them, but they're very much worth it if done right...that's if they're done right. Good luck man

RJonathan

I made my own here's what they look like

.PLUMMM

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well this basically answered it! haha

rodrez.

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used for N/A extreme builds. not practical unless your rich and are going all out on your NA build. throttle response
lol, go buy them, after your first 5 tunes, when you think you got it right... tell us how much power you gained from them.

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I only needed to tune once, with Shaun Church of C.A.T. and it took less than 2 hours to tune a set of Toda ITB's. I'm faaaaar from being rich. IMO, there a few things will determine how successful the tuning will be.

1) obviously the tuner is the most important thing IMO

2)the management. I use Power FC which is extremely user friendly, especially if you have it tuned by an authorized Power FC dealer, that has the power program. You can use the FC commander to get a basic tune, but a laptop with the power program will open up more parameters. I imagine most Honda guys would use Hondata because it's very inexpensive, or perhaps Crome. Again, the tuner and their experience with the given system would play a major part in the tuning time.

-the ITB's themselves. I'm not bashing TWM's, but I've never met anyone that had a set that didn't have problems with partial throttle. Thats just me, there might be thousands of guys without issues, I've just personally never met them. I use Toda's, which are modified Toyota throttles, and my idle is rock solid at 900rpm, partial throttle feel's no different than a regular manifold, other than the additional throttle response and torque. I run 12:1 compression, and 91 oct.


Modified by rodrez. at 11:19 PM 8/18/2007

doood

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itb's that are properly setup for the engine with correctly sized throttles, manifold, horns, etc. can make very good power throughout the powerband. even moreso than a manifold and tb.

smileycvc

Yea doood, but this is Honda tech so people are only concerned with peak HP numbers. Not the powerband.

doood

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fixed

smileycvc

very true my mistake