ajbardo

is there any way to measure from strut tower 2 core support to find out if my front end is square?

NotARaCist

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Sure, use some string and do some basic carpentry. It's called measuring a square. Your core support and frame should be the same across diagonal lengths.

B_Swapped93

Do the body panels line up ? if yes then don't worry if not it could be the panel it's self vs the actual frame.

shocker911

get a buddy a tape measure and go online and look for "crash book" measurements. This way you can go off of what it should be

belairbrian

my factory shop manual has all the dimensions in the body chapter.

And you can't rely on how body panels line up. You can have shock towers a little out or suspension points moved and still align the body panels.

ajbardo

The panel do not line up. its a 98 civic with a 2000 Frontend

ajbardo

Belair. Can you please get me the front end number?

belairbrian

Do you have a del sol?

ajbardo

Crap. Was hoping your fsm covered civics as well

B_Swapped93

You do know that's a popular conversion just like doing the 98 front on the integra's all it is, is the front bumper. Doesn't mean it was crashed....

ajbardo

Yes I do. It's a hood, bumper, grill and headlight swap. The wrinkled up inner passenger side fender and pass door hitting the back of the fender is what tells me is was in a crash

ajbardo

So no one has any info on this?

CX-Adam

I don't have the manual so I can't give you the numbers. If you can't find anything on the internet, most library's carry car manuals.

On the other hand, if you do what NotARacist suggested, you don't need to know what numbers you should get. All you need to determine is if the numbers match when you measure the diagonals. Cars have points all over for frame guys to measure when repairing crash damage.

Search for how to square a frame wall. Same principles.

pityocamptes

Order a carfax report?

CX-Adam

Only contains information that's been reported. A lot of people don't claim accidents. In no way are the definitive and I, personally, think they're a scam.

pityocamptes

True, but wouldn't hurt...

pityocamptes

Its probably pretty obvious based on OP's description that it was trashed. Inner fenders, etc. all tore up... I would be looking for new weld joints, etc...

OP, even if you find out it was wrecked, what do you realistically plan on doing?

ajbardo

Not buying a carfax on a 300$ car. If the car was wrecked I'm not going to do anything but use it as a dd till it dies. If not I was going to replace the boogered up fender and swap it to a 5speed and throw some parts at it.

ajbardo

I guess I should say I don't care if was wrecked as long as everything was squared up and not going to cause problems

lostforawhile

if it's just a beater, you might be able to chain it down and use a come along and a tree to pull that side back into something reasonably square, I've seen plenty of people do it, just pull a very small amount and measure measure measure

ajbardo

If its good and square then I'm good if not f it.

GOLF BRO

post pictures of the car so we can see what youre talking about

ajbardo

I'll get off of work early today, I'll post pics then. Can I post them on here or do I have to link them from photobucket?

ajbardo

ajbardo

I do not know how to resize. The first pic is from when the po opened the pass door after swapping the new front but before checking the gaps. The 2nd pic is looking down between the air box and the pass inner fender. You can't see it in this pic but it looks like some of drilled holed and tried to pull this piece out. I also found body filler in this location and on top of the strut tower.