I need some wheel measurements.
12-12-2002, 06:39 AM
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I need some wheel measurements.
Hey guys, I need y'all to do me a huge favor...
I'm looking to buy the Wilwood brake kit ( http://www.wilwood.com/products/kits...rabk/index.asp ), but after making a template for the caliper/ disc, I find that it doesn't fit inside my 16" Enkei RSE wheel. I know there are some 16's out there with alot of room inside them, but since I don't really pay attention to wheels (I like the ones I have), I don't know which ones they are. What I'm asking you to do is to print this out: http://www.wilwood.org/fl78.pdf and then make a full sized template from the measurements and see if it'll fit inside your 16" wheel and report back what you find.
In the mean time, I've heard that Rotas have lots of room? True? False? I'd like to stay 16" because I absolutly LOVE 225/40- 16 tires.
Thanks for your help. 
I'm looking to buy the Wilwood brake kit ( http://www.wilwood.com/products/kits...rabk/index.asp ), but after making a template for the caliper/ disc, I find that it doesn't fit inside my 16" Enkei RSE wheel. I know there are some 16's out there with alot of room inside them, but since I don't really pay attention to wheels (I like the ones I have), I don't know which ones they are. What I'm asking you to do is to print this out: http://www.wilwood.org/fl78.pdf and then make a full sized template from the measurements and see if it'll fit inside your 16" wheel and report back what you find.
In the mean time, I've heard that Rotas have lots of room? True? False? I'd like to stay 16" because I absolutly LOVE 225/40- 16 tires.
Thanks for your help.
12-12-2002, 07:20 AM
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Re: I need some wheel measurements. (House of Boost)
man, look into the fastbrakes kit...it uses a wilwood caliper on a rotor they say will fit most 16" wheels. Actually i think they claim they will clear some 15's....maybe
www.fastbrakes.com
www.fastbrakes.com
12-12-2002, 07:25 AM
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Re: I need some wheel measurements. (BigZ88)
Diameter isn't so much the issue as caliper width. If I used the 4 pot calipers, which I want to, then I'd have to get some 13mm spacers. The wheels already have an offset of 38mm, so with the 13mm spacers, I'd be looking at an offset of just 25mm. Aside from sticking out and tracking like ****, this will wear out my wheel bearings like nobodies buisness. And this is my concern with the fastbrakes kit- they use the same calipers.
I know I'm limiting myself to 16's, but I know it can be done...
I know I'm limiting myself to 16's, but I know it can be done...
12-12-2002, 08:34 AM
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Re: I need some wheel measurements. (House of Boost)
i agree that it can be done...I have seen many people with the fastbrakes kit on this site....hopefully one of them can help. if not email Brian at fastbrakes and see what they have to say.
12-12-2002, 01:47 PM
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Re: I need some wheel measurements. (BlackDeuceCoupe)
You planning to run at LeMans or something?
But to answer your question, road racing, insane mountain roads, and 11 lbs. per HP dictate some big brakes. My brake budget cap is a grand, so why not go for the best?
*edit- and to add to it... brakes are the single most important part of a car. Why settle for some ghetto fastbrakes kit? Sure, they work. And it's cool. But it doesn't meet my personal standards, and that's pretty much what my decision comes down to- my personal standards.
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Re: I need some wheel measurements. (House of Boost)
...My brake budget cap is a grand, so why not go for the best?
SOURCE: http://www.stoptech.com/whitepapers/...otors_myth.htm
...The true racing pad, used under normal conditions will be noisy and will not work well at low temperatures around town...
...The question remains, what pads should be used in high performance street car - relatively low temperature street pads or high temperature race pads? Strangely enough, in my opinion, the answer is a high performance street pad with good low temperature characteristics. The reason is simple: If we are driving really hard and begin to run into trouble, either with boiling fluid or pad fade (or both), the condition(s) comes on gradually enough to allow us to simply modify our driving style to compensate. On the other hand, should an emergency occur when the brakes are cold, the high temperature pad is simply not going to stop the car. As an example, during the mid 1960s, those of us at Shelby American did not drive GT 350 or GT 500 Mustangs as company cars simply because they were equipped with Raybestos M-19 racing pads and none of our wives could push on the brake pedal hard enough to stop the car in normal driving...
...The true racing pad, used under normal conditions will be noisy and will not work well at low temperatures around town...
...The question remains, what pads should be used in high performance street car - relatively low temperature street pads or high temperature race pads? Strangely enough, in my opinion, the answer is a high performance street pad with good low temperature characteristics. The reason is simple: If we are driving really hard and begin to run into trouble, either with boiling fluid or pad fade (or both), the condition(s) comes on gradually enough to allow us to simply modify our driving style to compensate. On the other hand, should an emergency occur when the brakes are cold, the high temperature pad is simply not going to stop the car. As an example, during the mid 1960s, those of us at Shelby American did not drive GT 350 or GT 500 Mustangs as company cars simply because they were equipped with Raybestos M-19 racing pads and none of our wives could push on the brake pedal hard enough to stop the car in normal driving...
12-12-2002, 02:23 PM
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Re: I need some wheel measurements. (BlackDeuceCoupe)
If you can't answer my original question, don't bust my nuts. You're going in the wrong direction. Instead of assuming I'm going to run carbon discs and pads, why not ask me why I'm chosing Wilwood over fastbrakes or AEM?
*edit- After some musing, I've found a pattern in your posts. You cite websites and quote them directly, but have never used any information in your own words. This leads me to two conclusions- you're a desk racer and have never gotten your hands dirty under or in a car and don't really understand HOW and WHY people come to certain decisions, and the second conclusion is that you're not really that smart, so you have to rely on a vast resource of bookmarks. But I digress, please... get off my thread.
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*edit- After some musing, I've found a pattern in your posts. You cite websites and quote them directly, but have never used any information in your own words. This leads me to two conclusions- you're a desk racer and have never gotten your hands dirty under or in a car and don't really understand HOW and WHY people come to certain decisions, and the second conclusion is that you're not really that smart, so you have to rely on a vast resource of bookmarks. But I digress, please... get off my thread.
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12-12-2002, 02:31 PM
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Re: I need some wheel measurements. (SpoonSportsEH2)
He just trying to save you from wasting your money on brakes you dont need.
*edit- i kan spel.
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12-12-2002, 02:34 PM
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Re: I need some wheel measurements. (House of Boost)
...After some musing, I've found a pattern in your posts. You cite websites and quote them directly, but have never used any information in your own words...
So, enjoy your folly! I'm outta here...
12-12-2002, 02:37 PM
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Re: I need some wheel measurements. (BlackDeuceCoupe)
If I offer a personal opinion, then I'm asked for proof.
So, enjoy your folly!
I'm outta here...
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