Speed_Ricer99

I finally got myself new tires and rims. I'll post them when it's warm enough to was my car. but check this out.

I was debating between Kumhos and Falkens. The guys at Discount Tire Direct talked me out of the Falkens, I figured they were just trying to sell me on Kumhos because they carried them, the only explanation they could give me when I asked what was so bad about falkens was that they were made by Firestone.

Well I bought the kumhos. A few days later I was driving down I294 to pick them up and I see a tire laying in the road, ripped to shreads. As I passed it I noticed the unmistakable treads of a Falken Azenis Sport. The exact tire I was looking at.
Talk about irony

hybridreams

Which Kumhos?

Speed_Ricer99

205/50R15's
Ecsta Supra 711's

I was going to go with 712's but i need to drive this car all season

is3oo

How much and what is the difference between 711's and 712's?

Mike P.

Not to burst your bubble too much, but that could've happened for any number of reasons aside from it being a low quality tire. Congrats on the purchase, however. I'd like to know a little more on the 711s.

RATEDR

the 711 offers a H rated tire which is a lower speed rating and harder compound but last longer and is a bit cheaper. About $52 in a 205/50 R15 as compared to a Z rated 712 at $70

acura_typer

Tires blow out from more than poor construction. Falken Tires are firestone? I don't think so.

SoloSol

yeah that could have happened to any tire. how many 18 wheeler carcases do you see on the highway.

hybridreams

Sheesh

Calm down guys. He just said he saw some busted Falkens on the side of the road. Irony is the keyword. No English buffs in here?

Robster

falken tire is its own company, not owned by a large conglomerate. As far as the kumho being a bad *** tire, ummm, NO! Comparing the kumho to the azenis is like comparing butter and guns. Completely different animals. The kumho 711 and 712's for that matter are nothing special, yeah, they may be slightly better than the shitilins that come stock on the SI, GSR, and LS, however, they aren't that much better. If you do think those tires are the bomb, then its quite apparent you've never had a truly high quality HIGH performance tire. There is a reason why kumho distributors aren't on backorder while falken distributors are on backorder out the ying yang. Just last weekend I was following a good friend of mine through some turns, I happened to have made the mistake and bought into the hype of the kumho 712. He happened to hear my gripes about the kumhos and decided to pick up the azenas. Lets just say while he was cruising through the turns, my kumhos were sliding like a bitch, and we both have similar suspension setups with mine actually being the better setup of the 2. Return those tires if it isn't too late and find someplace who has the azenas.

blackDA

i know what irony is. I love my falken azenis. They are not made by firestone by the way. I think they are made by nankang.

owen_the_soyboy

well said Robster.
and as far as Kumho ---> yuck, shoulda got the V700!

I got some badass tires on my daily driver, Advan AO32R

Mike P.

Falken is part of the Ohtsu Tire and Rubber parent company.

Those S-03s that folks rave about can be called Firestones. It wouldn't keep me from buying them, either.

Those truck treads that you see on the highway are generally retreads that peel off the carcass. Essentially they are poorly rebuilt tires.

MaxBoost

The reason you see truck tire carcasses all over the road is not because they use cheap tires. It's because truck drivers get there tires recapped so save money on new tires, but recaps fall off all the time.

Kumho 712 Supra Ecsta's are nothing even close to the stock Si michelins. They are 10x grippier. Supra 712's have great grip, they just dont last very long..

shawnhayes

Retreads. Whole different issue.

Shawn

slowerthanu

Actually, Bridgestone is the parent of firestone, and I just got me some SO-3 pole positions. Now thats a bad *** tire.

is3oo

So how much were all 4 tires?

slowerthanu

like $500 shipped

rjl2001

I can relate completely. Today was my first day driving around on Kumho 712s, and it makes a world of difference compared to the stock mich's. It was hard to decide between the 712s and the Azenis. But, since I needed the tires now and could not wait a few weeks for the Azenis that was what made me get the Kumho's. My car handles better than I would've hoped for. And I realize the 712s aren't great tires, just good for the price, but man they really impressed me in terms of grip. Not only is my car more fun to drive now, it's also a lot safer. just my $.02

is3oo

500?? Wow, those are some expensive tires.

ToneyTigre

kumho's are value tires. bang for the buck.

EF8SIR

sorry guys..........but i have kuhmo ecsta supra 712's on my 17's, i get them for
$67 a piece and i love them! very grippy, they are very quiet and they smoke alot!! hehe

but people who think kumhos are **** tires are ignorant, since kumho have been making quality racing tires for years for like auto-x and stuff!

they are the best tires i see for the price!!!

hope you like them!

SoloSol

that 18 wheeler thing; i was trying to compare an expensive tire (18 wheeler) to 2 a realtivly (inexpensive) tire . Showing that cost should not be an issue for a tire failure. sorry for not being clear.

non vtec

does anyone know if yokohama makes the parada for a 15" wheel? i really wanted those tires, but i've decided to go with a lighter 15" rota wheel and i can't find paradas that small. i'm now considering pirelli p7000's or kumho ecsta supra 712's, what do you think?

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currently running Bridgestone Potenza RE930i 195/60HR14's on stock rims, better than stock, but nothing special

B18C5-EH2

Paradas SUCK.

Try some tires with a 200 or lower treadware if you want the stickier stuff.