civic_driver

I'm planning on doing some brake system upgrades soon. If I put an ITR brake booster and master cylinder on my 92 civic, will it stop better without changing anything else? I have the smallest front rotors (9.something) and rear drums.

I'll eventually get to the rotors/calipers upgrades but since my master cylinder is starting to leak, I wanted to know if replacing the booster+cyl will make any difference in breaking.

Also, if you know where I can get the booster+cyl as a combo for cheaper, I'd like to know.

Thanks!

bradykiller

I can't be happier with my hybrid brake setup, all oem parts 11.1inch rotors :D 4x100 lug.

chad

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ditto...x3 since all my cars have that setup!!

civic_driver

will it all bolt up, or do i need to change something?

Luserkid

His talking about MC/BB only while on stock brakes. I heard from a reliable source on H-T that if you upgrade MC/BB with stock brakes you wont get much of a stopping power until you upgrade to integra's. So i dont think youll notice much off of it but a stiffer pedal.

Itll bolt up no problem.

IHateJDM

The ITR MC is 1", isn't it? If so, you'll have to change the fitting at the end of one hardline and reflare, but that's all.

pdiggitydogg

^only if its abs (I did not reflare)

Only changing the mc/bb will increase pedal firmness and mild braking. Its like using a semi truck to move a shoe box.

Upgrade the calipers, rotors, and mc/bb to get the most out of everything

civic_driver

i will but i'll be doing it one at a time as money comes my way... i don't want to reflare any pipes for now so is there a 1" mc that doesn't require reflaring? if so, what booster do I use with it? If not, what's the best MC i can use without reflaring lines? I'm willing to bend a few if i have to... so i'm guessing the mc has to come from a non-abs car but which one?

it's a 92 civic dx

thanks!

t0ekn3e

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details?

civic_driver

yeah, more info please

if you have other than stock setup, please post your vehicle info (e.g. 92 civic dx) and then post the brake setup that you have and what you had to do in order to put that setup in your vehicle.. hopefully this will be useful for others as well!

thanks!

pdiggitydogg

I used the itr 1" mc/bb setup (no reflare)
Integra calipers
10" front rotors
rear disc conversion
em1 prop valve

to use the 11" you will need to redrill itr or prelude vtec rotors to 4x100

bradykiller

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I'm running an GSR 1" MC with my stock Civic Dx Brakebooster and stock prop valve (same stock number as the 99-00 SI brakebooster/4040prop valve.)

01 GSR rear disc brakes, and in the front i switched to 01 GSR Front knuckles, with redrilled 92-96 Prelude VTEC rotors, with ITR Calipers modified to fit on the GSR Knuckles, you have to shave a couple mm off the caliper mounting bracket, or use spacers.

And here is the end result, 15 inch rim, with an 11.1 inch rotor.. stops on a freaking dime.

Luserkid

How the hell did you get a GSR MC on a Civic DX BB?

civic_driver

i'm interested to hear more... yeah how did you do that? was it on 5th gen?

i'd like to concentrate on the 5th gen (92-95) civics..

thanks!

JDM_Ej

If you do your research, there are endless things you can do with the brake setup using simple OEM parts. From the big rotor conversion as shown above, to mating NSX calipers on, to a poor mans 5 lug conversion.

JDM_sedan

iTrader: (1)

breaks?? its BRAKES!!

bradykiller

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They bolt right up to the 96-00 mc's, just not the 92-95.

boostedcivicsir

i did a jdm ITR 5 lug on my eg, with stainless lines, she does stoppies. not really but it does stop on a dime.

pdiggitydogg

Most dc mc's Ive seen are diagonal mounting, ek bb's are horizontal. I dont see how theyd mount up. Are the stud offsets different between the dc years?

whether its for an ek or eg, does not matter.
Your eg can have the same brakes as any ek setup. Which explains how I can use integra sets on my ek.

civic_driver

it doesn't matter but it does affect the work required to install the setup... i.e. bolt on or modification required to do setup

boostedcivic, are those 15" wheels? what tires? what rotor, caliper, master cyl and booster did you use? also, what knuckle?

pdiggitydogg

No, it doesnt. As long as youre knuckles are from a car that uses 10" rotors, everything will bolt right on.

I installed everything without modifying a single part (minus bending a hardline)

civic_driver

so you are saying that in my 92 civic dx i can put the following:

itr 1" mc/bb setup (no reflare)
Integra calipers
10" front rotors
rear disc conversion
em1 prop valve

and all i have to do is bend the brake lines?

hmm, if so, that's the setup i'm going for

btw, why do the itr 11" rotors need to be redrilled? is it because of the 5 lug to 4lug conversion? or why? where can i get it redrilled?

Stoich EG2

how do you do a poor man's 5 lug?

civic_driver

5 lug: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=333061

pdiggitydogg

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civic_driver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so you are saying that in my 92 civic dx i can put the following:

itr 1" mc/bb setup (no reflare)
Integra calipers
10" front rotors
rear disc conversion
em1 prop valve

and all i have to do is bend the brake lines?

hmm, if so, that's the setup i'm going for

btw, why do the itr 11" rotors need to be redrilled? is it because of the 5 lug to 4lug conversion? or why? where can i get it redrilled?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, I said if you have knuckles that use 10" rotors - you have 9", so you will need knuckles from an integra, civic si/ex/abs, or del sol vtec.
After that, you will need to find a non-abs 1" mc (in order to not reflare, which isnt even a big deal anyway).

The rest is yes. (But you'll probably want a different prop for an eg, since the em1 is modeled for ek's)
Everything youre asking has been covered many times, and if you searched, youd find it all fairly quickly.

11" honda rotors only come 5 lug, this will not fit 4x100 (your car, my car, almost everyone's civic). If you convert to 5 lug, you will not have to redrill anything...since you converted to 5 lug...
Most shops will not redrill rotors, since there is so much room to screw up. Personally, for the size, I cant really see any advantage of itr calipers over the other integra ones..they already lock up very easily on my coupe and will do it faster on a hatch.

Please search for more info. Its there.