ultimatehonda

What do you guys think a 00' almost stock Si will put down at the wheels?? THe only mod is a AEM short ram intake.

DragII

130whp or so.

TypeR0149

id say 139-143hp, and 99-103tq

now that car would be the "ultimate honda"

DragII

yeah I may have been on the cautious side...but I doubt it will see 140whp.

ultimatehonda

Some one told me that the short ram makes my car loose power. Is that true???

Dr. Gonzo

i was reading in SportCompactCar that the normal loss from supposed stock horsepower is about 10-15hp. Which means every stock motor is never what it's supposed to be. That's gotta suck.

DragII

actually its about a 15% loss through the drivetrain.

ultimatehonda

so having a short ram makes me loose power????

Dr. Gonzo

Basically you're engine is sucking hot transmission air with a short ram. I learned that the hard way so i used my short ram and my stock intake to make a cold air. It's easy and you don't have to spend any more money. Or you could box off the short ram... up to you.


[Modified by 93GBlackDelSol, 2:56 AM 12/3/2001]

TypeR0149

its called parisitic loss, and it is incurred threw your accesories, ie, power steering, the wheels spinning, all these suck power from an engine, most honda's are around 15%, some of the new ones like the rsx are closer to 12%

Spade

No, it inceases power.....with the ease of the air it breathes you gain power.
Standard gains with a cone filter are 2-3 whp.

mingchi96

for a stock b16a with a 3" intake, it will cause it to lose torque. go with a 2.5" intake from aem instead. It will work better for a stock motor. There is only so much air a motor can breath.. and the motor needs pressure to gain torque.

ultimatehonda

SO you have both intakes and it didnt make a diff? Also if anybody has a front lip(electron blue) from a 99 or 00 si for sale let me know.

101998

I'm with Brian, I have short ram w/ the extender, I can feel no difference between the two, and I prefer the sound of the short ram.