creation25

i don't really know where to write this. i did some search on this forum but only found light bulbs. i thought this would fit my question more since it is under CRX and EF. can somebody tell me how to remove them stock 92 civic hatch head lights? do i have to remove the front bumper as well? if so how can i remove that? i order a pair of head lights and they arrived today, so i'm looking to change the old ones. thanks.

jdmboyef9

Wrong forum to start with. Try a service manual to show the location of the factory mounting bolts. I would not recommend replacing unless the new lights are oem but then again what do I know. Im not a doctor or a ricer

OneBadTurboCRV

The 92+ is nothing like 88-91' Hondas... You should have put this in the OBVIOUS section of 92-00' forum...

There should be a couple bolts for the housing on top and the bottom just has tabs going into the brackets...

creation25

i took the housing screws top off on both side of head lights, took 4 screws on the frnt bumper off, and took 4 screws underneath the front bumper off as well. the side screws are missing and is not even there when i bought the car. the bumper is not coming down. it seems to me like the sides (where the front bumper and side fender meet) are stick together, but the screws are not there. anybody know what's going on? still, there are a few number of sockets underneath the bumper that i didn't take them out. i only take out the 4 silver screw. do i need to take them socket out too? or are they only for the lip?

4drEF

Sounds terrible!
Have you tried taking the hood off and then both doors and front fenders?
I think that's what you need to do.
... but then again this is the 88~91 forum and I have no clue what to do with a 92.

creation25

what are you trying to tell me to do? lol!!!
maybe i should take the trunk out as well.

but seriously, i haven't. why should I ?

4drEF

YEAH! The trunk wouldn't be such a bad idea.
Then you might get a straight shot at the back of the bolts where they screw in.

Or you could just post your question in the correct forum for 92~95 vehicles.

creation25

bump!

i don't know if this is normal but the area where the bumper and the fender meet, it just seems like they are glue together. the inner screw are missing so that shouldn't be a problem for the bumper to come off, however, it doesn't. am i missing something? not really a tech guy so guys throw some advices plsss..

creation25

this ain't helping. i'll have to take some pic and post them up.

street_racer_271

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lol, this poor guy...

check my DIY thread, the second? pic shows where all your bolts are, there is no need to remove the bumper, you can manuever it out with it on. I've done it like 10 times

http://s14.zetaboards.com/EJ1_Owners...opic/102131/1/

Katastrophic

you actually do not need to remove the entire front bumper, if you can get the front top screws out, (where the hood touches the bumper) you should be able to get the bumper to lean forward just enough to allow you to remove the bolts holding the lower headlight assembly in place.

creation25

thanks man. i followed the second step and took the headlights and corners out. i then put the aftermarket headlights and corners back in but heck!!! the two hanging thing (where the 2 screws on top suppose to go in) were relatively off by an inch or so. if i put the stock headlights back in the screws does fit well. i don't know why my black housing is off? it seems to me they are a little bigger than the stock headlights and corners though.

also another problem is the front bumper didn't even touch the headlights from underneath at all. there's about 2 inches of gap hanging below LOL! I will try to take come pic tomorrow and see what i did wrong. thanks for the help man.

street_racer_271

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no problem dude, hope everything works out for you

Hidenplanvew

They from ebay? That might be your problem

creation25

no they from this one website. not ebay. they are the black housing crystal head lights with amber corners. it is for civic coupe/hatchback 92-95. they shouldn't be a problem at all. here is a picture of the headlights:

http://reviews.turbometal.com/1992-1...al-headlights/

you will see those two silver hanging clip on top of the head lights, they don't even match the holes that are under the hood. by that i mean when i put them on, they are slanted off the stock holes that the screws suppose to go in. looks like i have to drill new holes? LOL. even if that was fixed, there's also there's an huge gap underneath between the headlights and the front bumper, and doesn't even fit evenly. i try to push the front bumper up so that it would fit but it can't go any further. i don't know? maybe i aim doing something wrong.

street_racer_271

iTrader: (8)

Those are the same as the eBay ones... Problem with cheap parts is there is little to no R&D involved, which results in poor fitment and product, lower labor cost equals cheaper product.

NotAJDMFanBoy

OEM headlights are better than any aftermarket. The only time aftermarket is better is if going HID, which is usually illegal to begin with, but the aftermarket ones don't have the ridges.

If replacing cracked or just broken lights, there is a screw or bolt on the corner light, then the two on top the headlight, and one at the base of the light, more towards the center of the radiator support. If you look at the replacement lights, there should be a little post. Also, you may have to push the bumper down a little or tweak the headlight up to get it out.

creation25

the red arrow here shows where the screws suppose to go. here you can see they are off.

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/...headlights.jpg

i don't see how i put it in the wrong way, because the screw on the left of the head lights (red arrow) is where the screw go in and it fits there perfectly. the screw is in the center of that hole:

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/...eadlights2.jpg

i managed to fit the clippers into the holes. i would have to turn a little to fit it in.

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/...eadlights4.jpg

but the screw to the left of the head lights would have to come out a little bit and therefore wouldn't be in the center. also the bottom end would leave a gap:

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/...eadlights3.jpg

can somebody give me an critique of what i did wrong or how to do it right. i really appreciate it, thanks.

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

Return them. They claim to have a 100% guarantee. It's obvious these are substandard trash items. But what do you expect for $115?

street_racer_271

iTrader: (8)

^i agree with him, very poor fitment. If you want black housing headlights, follow the diy I posted. Keeps everything oem, and simple, and perfect fitment

creation25

i call their customer service and send them some photos comparing the stock headlights with the one i bought from them and they told me it should fit. they say if it doesn't i can just return it and have my full refund back. this is messed up. waste my time.

creation25

i don't like oem. if i go oem i can just keep my stock head lights right? or am i missing something? this is unclear to me. you mean have the stock head lights and add your own stuff to it? i want jdm like style. ha ha.

street_racer_271

iTrader: (8)

o.e.m - Original Equipment Manufacteurer. Meaning, made for the car they came on. You will not, WILL NOT, find ANYTHING that fits as well.

Here are OEM USDM Headlights, H4 Bulbs, Glass lense, and notice the dimples


Here are OEM JDM Headlights, H4H Bulbs, Plastic Lense, City Lights, No dimples


Your generic ebay "JDM" Style headlights, cheap, plastic, poor fitment, nothing like the JDM versions they are copying.


and what mine look like from my DIY that I suggested if you want black housing headlights. OEM, functional, perfect fitment, zero problems

creation25

that's nice man. i'm just going to take it to the local shop and have they install it for $50 buck.

street_racer_271

iTrader: (8)

Serious? You gonna take it to a shop to get an oil cap changes too?