NjTurbo007

Hey guys, im new to the forum.... lots of great info hear... I recent started to work on a project car on the weekends. I have the body of a 1995 Civic Hatchback...(no engine/tranny). I was told to get a engine from a CR-V truck, since it has higher HP/TQ from the start. I want to drop in a Type-R tranny and a G16 Turbo... I have a 10K budget to work with... Anyone know which block/head I should get for a perfect swap?? And also which would be the best turbo to use... I dont want to go over 15LB or boost.. Any ideas would be welcome...

Thanks!

z6hatchboy

This is really going to be a lot of info to lay out, use the search button that highlighted in red in the upper-right. Look up crvtec or crv vtec or something like that if that what you want to do. But if you have 10k, you could get a b16a up to a b18c5 with the factory reliability and go from there. As for the turbo question, you mean 16g, that is the turbo from the 2g 4g63t motors in the 95-99 eclipse gst or gsx and the 95+ talon tsi. I think its also water+oil cooled if its like the 1g dsm 14b turbos. You'd be better off getting a garret or something. You say you dont want to go above 15psi? This will vary greatly according to diff. turbo's, its all about cfm's. What is your hp goal is the real question?

yoffer

Correct^ Cant base psi on what motor your planning on running, different turbo's will make more/less horsepower at different psi.

93egSLEEPER

i wouldnt boost a b20 past 6-8psi on a t3/t4 .57 trim turbo. They have thin cylinder walls and blow easier then most other motors. the best way to go with b20 is to sleeve the block and bore it... but thats about 1k of work.

NjTurbo007

Im looking for make 350-400HP.... I want the car to be street legal... but I want the power/speed there also. I read the whole thread about all the various engines that swap in, but its hard to make a choice. My good friend is a mechanic and has a large shop so I can work on the car there on sundays... Which engine/tranny/turbo... would be the best to make 400+ HP safely... and still street legal/weekend warrior...

93egSLEEPER

any car is street legal no matter how much power you make... it would just have to be on street tires, have exhaust etc etc.

making 400+ HP on a honda is going to take a built bottom end and head build. if you try and make 400HP stock it will pop faster then you can get a new swap in place for the blown one.

z6hatchboy

I agree with yoffer on not boost the b20 much. If your wanting 400whp id just say either way you go you're going to need some extensive tuning done for the motor to be safe. Forced induction forum would be a great place to ask this question though. If you want torque though, i guesss you could build a h22 sleeve it + boost it on a t25 (just for the turbo's life, because you'll wear a t3/t4 or a 16g out fairly easy i think) with a h2b for the tranny gearing.
*edit* and build the h22 of course, sleeving alone wont get you there.

93egSLEEPER

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by z6hatchboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree with egsleeper* on not boost the b20 much. If your wanting 400whp id just say either way you go you're going to need some extensive tuning done for the motor to be safe. Forced induction forum would be a great place to ask this question though. If you want torque though, i guesss you could build a h22 sleeve it + boost it on a t25 (just for the turbo's life, because you'll wear a t3/t4 or a 16g out fairly easy i think) with a h2b for the tranny gearing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

its always better to wear out a turbo and not a motor. if you sleeved and built a h22 i would jump up to something like a gt25r or gt30r.

NjTurbo007

So if I want to go ***** to the wall with 10K (To start) which engine/tranny/turbo/ and work... or if I wanted to play it safe... 250HP to $350... same thing.. engine/trans/turbo... I just want to get some ideas... P.S. my friend aka the mechanic (Greg) has a eagle tsi with 12lb boost... and his car moves... I just want to put him back in check... lol and have a something to keep my away from the wife on sunday... so any ideas would help...lol

thanks!

93egSLEEPER

if you have 10k you can make 700whp if you want.... but then its a track only car. at this point you need to decide what HP goals you want, how much you wanna spend, and what you wanna use the car for.

z6hatchboy

If he's on the stock 16g, they rock 10psi stock and put down 210. Which roughly gives him around 7hp/psi on the calculation of the 2.0 420a (eclipse non turbo) motor putting out 140. So on 12psi he should be around 224hp. If you just want to "put him in check" haha, a b18c1 (semi-built of course: rods, pistons, and a good tune and some injectors, and maybe a fuel walbro 255lph pump) on a t3/t4 at 10psi maybe even 6-8psi should easily "put him in check" and it wouldnt be a killer on the budget.

z6hatchboy

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93egSLEEPER &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you have 10k you can make 700whp if you want.... but then its a track only car. at this point you need to decide what HP goals you want, how much you wanna spend, and what you wanna use the car for.</TD></TR></TABLE>
True, really get your goals and what you really want narrowed down, before jumping in your 10k

SL0-hatch

Well, I have a GSR in my hatch and i'm planning on boosting it soon with all stock internals. I'm looking to run around 8 psi and for somewhere around 250-300 hp. This can easily be done with just slapping on a turbo and the necessary basic parts and a good tune. You probably don't really need to build the motor. Or you can go with a non-vtec honda motor the LS with stock internals and run around 12 psi and get the same amount of power. Its up to you whether you want vtec or not. Personally i LOVE VTEC so i would go with a VTEC motor. not really sure about the other vtec motors but i've heard that the GSR can really only handle around 8 pis max on the stock internals. But if you want a higher hp end result your going to need to build the motor: pistons, rods, etc. some people don't even sleeve there blocks and can still boost high psi numbers while others don't even though it would be safer to sleeve and do "the works". and seeing as you have $10k to spend it would be safer and more reliable. but don't take it from me i'm just another ASIAN person who loves HONDA'S! lol!