Notices
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-17-2005, 04:12 PM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
oxSLEEPERxo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,350
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20

UPDATE: The engine is running. However, the P28 isn't working. It struggle in 2nd gear, so I'm using a p06 for now. As for the cause of all this ordeal, it was the extra plug for the resistor box. I had to pull the pin from the "extra plug" and put it back in its original plug.

As for the reward, I have to go back and reread all the posts and see who gave some detailed information on the resister box. There were several post regarding this. I'll pick the one that was posted first and had detailed information. That person will be paypalled $20 as promised.

Thanks for everyone's help.


I just installed a new z6 in my hatchback and having problems starting it up. Anyone have any tips going about this? Some detailed directions would be great. I did a search but there wasn't much detailed information.

Things I've checked:
- the spark plug wire sparks
- hoses
- fuses
- wiring

Any help will be greatly appreciated
The engine is cranking, turning over, but just not starting. It does smell like fuel so I'm sure it's getting fuel. I checked for spark by putting the spark plug wire next to a bolt and yes it sparked. As far as timing goes, this engine was removed from a running civic 3-4 months ago. It started right up back then, but it has just been sitting for the past 3-4 months. As for the plugs, everything is plugged in.

If you can point out what's wrong and give me detailed instructions how to go about fixing it, I'll paypal you $20. Remember, your suggestion is worth $20 if it starts my engine.

Here are some pictures:

















Modified by oxSLEEPERxo at 2:00 PM 3/18/2005


Modified by oxSLEEPERxo at 2:14 PM 3/18/2005
Old 03-17-2005, 04:18 PM
  #2  
Junior Member
 
94CoupeEJ1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Adams, Ne, USA
Posts: 203
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (oxSLEEPERxo)

Check the 02 sensor. I swapped an engine one time and for some strange reason the 02 sensor decided to die. This might be a long shot. You'll figure it out.
Old 03-17-2005, 04:21 PM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
 
SOHC_MShue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Richmond, Va, usa
Posts: 11,440
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (oxSLEEPERxo)

bump for some help .

Just curious are you running it with with same ecu tabias had?
Old 03-17-2005, 04:22 PM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
 
komat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: morgantown, wv, usa
Posts: 4,721
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (SOHC_MShue)

did you test your starter?
Old 03-17-2005, 04:23 PM
  #5  
71.192.16.183
 
jlacoy82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Red Sox Nation
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (SOHC_MShue)

Was the distributor for any reason ever taken off and put back on?
Old 03-17-2005, 04:24 PM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
 
SOHC_MShue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Richmond, Va, usa
Posts: 11,440
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (94CoupeEJ1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94CoupeEJ1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Check the 02 sensor. I swapped an engine one time and for some strange reason the 02 sensor decided to die. This might be a long shot. You'll figure it out. </TD></TR></TABLE>
it should start even if the o2 isn't hooked up.
Old 03-17-2005, 04:24 PM
  #7  
Member
Thread Starter
 
oxSLEEPERxo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,350
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (komat)

starter is good, got it tested at autozone to make sure
Old 03-17-2005, 04:25 PM
  #8  
Honda-Tech Member
 
duggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Houston, TX, US
Posts: 765
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i have no idea what;s wrong with the car, but i needed those diagrams to help me plug everything in. THANKS!

also, did you check the spark plugs? step on the gas when you crank? even though i know its not a carb'ed car, i did that to my 240 and it started up.
Old 03-17-2005, 04:27 PM
  #9  
Member
Thread Starter
 
oxSLEEPERxo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,350
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (duggy)

new spark plugs, yea stepped on teh gas sometimes when i crank
Old 03-17-2005, 04:29 PM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
madcrossover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Tx, United States
Posts: 345
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (oxSLEEPERxo)

you can also try making sure your battery is givving enough power to start it up, also it looks like in the last picture the hose that goes to the fuel filter looks bent might not be getting enough gas. Just thinking dont know if it will help but you could try checking it out. It could be something little like that.
Old 03-17-2005, 04:32 PM
  #11  
Member
Thread Starter
 
oxSLEEPERxo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,350
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (madcrossover)

put in a new battery to see, but not the problem, as for the bent, its the camera flash
Old 03-17-2005, 04:44 PM
  #12  
Junior Member
 
KiddEng's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 721
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (oxSLEEPERxo)

maybe you got too much gas in the engine and its flooded? You say that you were stepping on the gas while cranking, but was it all the way down? or were you just pumping it?

On my girls hatch when i start her car and shut it down within 30sec - 1min, the next time we try to start it, it wont, engine is flooded. It just keeps cranking, until i floor the pedal while keeping it cranked and after 10 sec the motor will start to fire.

so thats my .02, try keeping the pedal floored and crank the engine. Give that a go.
Old 03-17-2005, 04:48 PM
  #13  
Member
Thread Starter
 
oxSLEEPERxo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,350
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (KiddEng)

i've tried flooring it. I've also tried pumping it. To make sure that it wasn't floored i hand cranked the engine several times too
Old 03-17-2005, 04:50 PM
  #14  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Jedi_Sol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 846
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (KiddEng)

try testing the alternator? when my engine kept cranking but not starting, the mechanic replaced the alternator, and voila, problem fixed.

James
Old 03-17-2005, 04:51 PM
  #15  
Honda-Tech Member
 
komat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: morgantown, wv, usa
Posts: 4,721
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (Jedi_Sol)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jedi_Sol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">try testing the alternator? when my engine kept cranking but not starting, the mechanic replaced the alternator, and voila, problem fixed.

James</TD></TR></TABLE>

he has a new battery or charged up so thats not it
Old 03-17-2005, 04:56 PM
  #16  
Honda-Tech Member
 
seen4ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Louisville, KY, US
Posts: 2,126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (oxSLEEPERxo)

you didn't swap the tps & MAP plugs did you, IE plus the map one into the TPS sensor and the TPS into the MAP, it won't throw a CEL, but won't start for ****.

an easy way to check and see if you are getting fuel, pull off the plug wire to a cylinder, crank it over for a second or so. Pull the plug and see if there is raw fuel on it.

but you need 4 things for an engine to run:
1. spark
2. fuel
3.compression
4. timing

so, if you are getting spark & fuel, then you need to see if you still have timing, ie your distributor is maybe turned off 180 degrees. if you have spark, then your t-belt is still good. you can normally hear compression too from the exhaust. or just do a compression test, but if that was the case. one capful of automatic tranny fluid.
Old 03-17-2005, 05:00 PM
  #17  
Honda-Tech Member
 
eg crunkmonster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Miramar, FL
Posts: 3,299
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (seen4ever)

ecu plugged in? i had this happen to me once and we didnt figure it out for like 10 mins
Old 03-17-2005, 05:07 PM
  #18  
Member
Thread Starter
 
oxSLEEPERxo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,350
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (seen4ever)

I did not mess up on the tps and MAP plugs. the tps plug is not long enough to reach the MAP. As for the distributor, it's not turned 180.

I'm lost with the "one capful of automatic tranny fluid."
Old 03-17-2005, 05:08 PM
  #19  
Honda-Tech Member
 
SOHC_MShue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Richmond, Va, usa
Posts: 11,440
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (eg cookiemonster)

if the ecu wasn't plugged in he woudl throw a solid cel
Old 03-17-2005, 05:08 PM
  #20  
Honda-Tech Member
 
11secEk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Newark, DE, USA
Posts: 1,589
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (eg cookiemonster)

In the pics the head looks really shiney did u have it redone and put the motor back together and set the timing wrong, and as far as checking to see if the cars getting fuel, crank the car over and pull a plug and see if its wet
Old 03-17-2005, 05:09 PM
  #21  
Member
Thread Starter
 
oxSLEEPERxo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,350
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (seen4ever)

I did not mess up on the tps and MAP plugs. the tps plug is not long enough to reach the MAP. As for the distributor, it's not turned 180.

the ECU is plugged in. I tried a p28 and a p06. So i guess it's not the ecu

I'm lost with the "one capful of automatic tranny fluid."
Old 03-17-2005, 05:12 PM
  #22  
Junior Member
 
DohcSide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: the OC
Posts: 734
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (oxSLEEPERxo)

alternator?
Old 03-17-2005, 05:15 PM
  #23  
 
Sleek98's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 287
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (oxSLEEPERxo)

pm'd you
Old 03-17-2005, 05:28 PM
  #24  
Honda-Tech Member
 
11secEk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Newark, DE, USA
Posts: 1,589
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (Sleek98)

why does everone on here think alternator? i have started/ drove honda/acuras with out them, like some one said before u only need , fuel, timing, compresstion and spark
Old 03-17-2005, 05:31 PM
  #25  
Member
Thread Starter
 
oxSLEEPERxo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,350
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20 (11secEk)

I don't think it's the alternator..


Quick Reply: Help figure out my engine problem and i will Paypal you $20



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:48 PM.