ih8danoles

Yesterday i went to a import shop and the guy told me a few things that i found hard to believe.. First he said the bypass valve on the cold air intake didnt take away from the power.. He then told me that 17 inch wheels wouldnt be any different from 15 inch.. Last, he told me that i wouldnt get any more hp if i got cat-back than i would if i just got axle back on my stock civic.. Just wondering what the deal is

awskalis04

i dont agree with any of that, exspecially about the 15 same a 17 crap. that cant be right

F.U.

do this to him....... .....bigger wheels heavier more to turn.....catbakc are dyno tested for a car for ultimate HP...

ih8danoles

I didnt think any of that sounded right.. I think i might buy my wheels and tires from them though because he said the 15" rota Battles with kumho tires would be only $700.. He told me that getting a higher flowing cat was pointless if you werent running atleast 200 hp. I thought no matter what it would give better flow

jas0n

where is this place so people know not to go there for future refrence

Hammett

Catbacks will make more power than axleback

l0p3z

that guy gets a

maybe he's trying to sell you 17in rims for more money or something.

splitime

Heh, bypass valve does cost a few hp, but its nice insurance just in case. Catback is designed to provide better flow throughout the exhaust system (header on...), axleback with stock is still bottlenecked from the stock area. 17inch will be heavier and thus have a slower spinup, 15s are cheaper and faster for acceleration.

Evs-One

tell him to check out Honda-Tech and learn a thing to do, and to do his homework before he startes doing business with his customers, and sharing the wrong info...

phantoman

actually, he has a point, the cat back doesnt give u the full benefit until u are putting up high numbers.
dont get me wrong, it does work, but works better with bigger displacement motors and FI. As far as stock motors the full cat back exhaust will prob give u 3-6 hp and maybe a 2 lb tq through the bandwidth.

BUt the crapo about the wheels, 15 inch wheels are :
1: lighter
2: spin faster (better for cars off the line)
3: have better traction

The theory behind the bypass valve is:
The broken straw, i know ppl have gone to Jack in the boX
got a straw that was cracked in the middle. this made it harder to suck the coke or drink up. Reason for having a hard time to suck up the water is because, when the straw is placed in ur mouth and the other in the water, it creates a vacum that will actually lift some degree of weight. Puting in a hole will decress the degree of weight the straw can suck up. I hope that makes sense.




[Modified by phantoman, 10:42 PM 10/5/2002]

kefka

iTrader: (1)

stupid ricers...

Honda-Tech Balla

HAHAHAHA, LMAO that was the funniest post Ive seen on HT YET! lol "do this to him.... " Good **** man..good ****

ransack

the only thing that I can think of for the 17s is that, it is bigger, but when your 17 is spinning at 3000 rpms, it would have gone farther then the 15s. because it lays more rubber in the same time. it takes time to get the 17s up to speed.
thats why dragsters us FAT wheels. lets spin, more distance. but you need a beefy engine to turn those meats

INVALID

Number #3 is only going to be right if the 15 inch is wider then the 17 inch wheel.

phantoman

dont laugh,
the exhaust in theory is
the straighter the pipe the wider the piping the better the flow of the exhuast.
therefore increasing the ur power becuase their is less back pressure.
not enough back pressure is bad too, back pressure actually causes torque.
how much did u guys gain on ur exhaust. even a 3 inch piping all the way through on a stock motor, or a 2.5 inch, what kind of power did u guys get.
if u put a 3 inch exhaust on a stock motor i guarentee u will lose horsepower in the power band but will gain horsepower in the top end.

having a stock motor will not effectly use the 3 inch piping because it can not spit out that much because the out put of the motor is weaker.
having a built motor that has more hrsper and adding the 3 inch will be awesome because their is soo much power to flow throught he exhaust.

Ie: a turbo motor will benefit from a 3' piping than a stock motor because the FI car has more input as well as output.



[Modified by phantoman, 5:48 AM 10/6/2002]

BlackDeuceCoupe

First he said the bypass valve on the cold air intake didnt take away from the power..

<FONT COLOR="blue">Huh? What bypass valve?</FONT>


He then told me that 17 inch wheels wouldnt be any different from 15 inch..

<FONT COLOR="blue">Wrong! It will make a difference. Whether it is good or bad difference will depend on your perspective.</FONT>

Last, he told me that i wouldnt get any more hp if i got cat-back than i would if i just got axle back on my stock civic..

<FONT COLOR="blue">Most certainly true. However, once again, it all depends...</FONT>