Notices
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

GSR Disc Brake Conversion = Different Pedal Travel??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-02-2010, 09:34 AM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
vsi1600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default GSR Disc Brake Conversion = Different Pedal Travel??

Hey all,

Recently completed the GSR rear disc brake conversion on my '00 EJ8 coupe, complete with beefy Nissin GSR master cylinder and booster, and proportioning valve from a Civic Si.

My question is: has anyone else noticed that after doing this mod their brake pedal travel is different? Braking performance definitely seems better, but the brakes don't start engaging until the pedal is a full inch or so lower in its travel than they used to. Is this just because the master cylinder is bigger, or could it be due to a junky master cylinder or booster? The reason I ask is primarily because the MS and booster came from the junk yard and could have been in better shape...

TIA for any replies!
Old 02-02-2010, 09:57 AM
  #2  
I'm not Rick!
 
rick_rabies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: under a prayer shawl
Posts: 6,940
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default Re: GSR Disc Brake Conversion = Different Pedal Travel??

bleed it more and check the booster connection to pedal screw...you can shorten it
Old 02-07-2010, 01:24 AM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
vsi1600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: GSR Disc Brake Conversion = Different Pedal Travel??

Thanks for the reply

I bled the living bajesus out of it before but I will check the booster to pedal screw... didn't realize it could be shortened.
Old 02-07-2010, 03:50 AM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
 
JDMFreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: OKC, USA
Posts: 1,207
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: GSR Disc Brake Conversion = Different Pedal Travel??

I had the same issue, I ended up taking my car to a shop and it was bleed through a machine/pump...issue resolved.
Old 02-07-2010, 05:21 AM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Koopa Troopa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: 29 Palms, CA
Posts: 501
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: GSR Disc Brake Conversion = Different Pedal Travel??

My EG6 literally has like 1/4 of travel in the brake pedal with a 15/16 master cylinder.

I think your brake master cylinder is leaking or you didn't get all the air out of the lines.
Old 02-07-2010, 07:05 PM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
vsi1600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: GSR Disc Brake Conversion = Different Pedal Travel??

Originally Posted by JDMFreak
I had the same issue, I ended up taking my car to a shop and it was bleed through a machine/pump...issue resolved.

Ahh, I have an air compressor so I will look into getting a a power bleeder for this purpose...

Thanks for the reply!
Old 02-07-2010, 07:05 PM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
vsi1600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: GSR Disc Brake Conversion = Different Pedal Travel??

double post -_-
Old 02-07-2010, 07:10 PM
  #8  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
vsi1600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: GSR Disc Brake Conversion = Different Pedal Travel??

Originally Posted by Koopa Troopa
My EG6 literally has like 1/4 of travel in the brake pedal with a 15/16 master cylinder.

I think your brake master cylinder is leaking or you didn't get all the air out of the lines.
That's for the reply. I will definitely do a power bleed!
Old 02-07-2010, 07:11 PM
  #9  
Master Detailer
 
98civdx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 15,482
Received 12 Likes on 9 Posts
Default Re: GSR Disc Brake Conversion = Different Pedal Travel??

Did you bench bleed the master cylinder?
Old 02-08-2010, 12:06 AM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
vsi1600's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: GSR Disc Brake Conversion = Different Pedal Travel??

Originally Posted by 98civdx
Did you bench bleed the master cylinder?
Nope... Installed it clean and dry, filled with ATE Super Blue, and bled it in the car following the sequence in the FSM for farthest to closest. (It was a somewhat wacky unintuitive sequence iirc. Front right, rear left, rear right, front left, or something like that.) I did spend a lot of time bleeding though.

I won't be able to work on the car for another few weeks, but I plan on doing a powerbleed right away when able.
Old 02-08-2010, 02:10 AM
  #11  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Koopa Troopa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: 29 Palms, CA
Posts: 501
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: GSR Disc Brake Conversion = Different Pedal Travel??

I don't think bench bleeding is necessary. However I think your master cylinder is old and leaking. I'd recommend spending the $100 or so dollars and buying a new one.

Oh, one thing you could look into...

It's not uncommon for older cars like ours to get some flexing after installing a new or bigger master cylinder. The excessive pedal travel could just be caused by your master cylinder flexing. You could try and construct a master cylinder brace and see if that helps.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
fryman
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
6
08-07-2015 06:49 PM
PhatFactory
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
10
06-18-2009 12:43 PM
riceracer07
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
5
02-26-2007 09:11 PM
blackwagon
For Sale
1
04-15-2006 05:48 PM



Quick Reply: GSR Disc Brake Conversion = Different Pedal Travel??



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:54 AM.