96honda_EK

I gotta quick question. What if i put GSR camshafts in my b16a2 head? Will it even do anything? Any hp gain? How about if i put type-r camshafts into my head? Let me know if you know anything

Deetz

No real performance gained from gsr cams

Type R cams will give maybe another 2hp to the wheels, but will make power a little longer at high rpm. The B16 would make more power with aftermarket cams, and higher compression.

thumper64

drifter188 if full of it. This sort of thing is irresponsible, it's like suggesting huffing Raid to get high. Someone is bound to try it and bad things will happen.

96honda ek, this has been covered. Si cams are very mild, GSR are more aggressive, then CTR/ITR cams are the best. Depending on the year, the lift and duration on these varies and you need to research this to determine what's best.

spoon_concept_eg6

B16 and GSR cams are basically the same. Type R cams are basically Stage 2 cams. it will make much more power. plus type R cams are highly sought after.

thumper64

NA, true, not much will be seen switching to GSR. But with forced induction, GSR or ITR/CTR are pretty good. Lots of people are running OEM cams on turbo B series.

thumper64

spoon, that's wrong. GSR has more lift and duration than Si. ITR/CTR are basically stage 1 because some stage 1 cams are based off them.

96honda_EK

drifter 188 you need to get a damn life. Sitting on a honda forum and writing down bullshit on every forum? What the hell is wrong with you? Yeah d series cams in a doch vtec motor? Are you retarded? Everybody else, ok what kind of aftermarket cams do you recommend? And i dont wanna spend too much $$

thumper64

Well, hopefully no more worthless posts coming from you...

Deetz

Dude, don't make **** up, Type R cams make like 2hp more, that's it. B16's have less compression than the Type R

They are only highly sought after because everybody has this thing about anything "Type R"

Any aftermarket cam will make more power, even a Skunk 2 Stage I tuner series

96honda_EK

Ok what if i got stage 1 camshafts? What kind of hp gain woud i gain?

thumper64

ITR or CTR cams are probably the best deal. Or Crane, Zex/Comp, Brian Crower/ Crower, etc have good cams. Now the lift and duration you would be best off with comes down to what you're doing. Are you NA with mild, high, super high compression, turbo with a log manifold, tubular manifold?

I got some used Crane cams for a decent deal. Their Stage 1s are basically CTRs with a more aggressive VTEC lobe.

thumper64

The only dropping that ever involved you was your mom dropping you on your head as a baby.

96honda_EK

Its fully stock b16 right now with a few bolt ons. I just want a little more power out of it so im asking around

Orest92

Hey guys 96EK Hatch is my buddy and he posted this question for me since I forgot my log in cause I wasn't on for months. I read the posts and I just want my car to be a little stronger. No boost just NA. I want more low end power and also to make the vtec more powerful. I just see alot of camshafts out there and all seem to be what I want but I just want a few opinions from some honda guys, besides drifter188. You can go sit on it and rotate.

spoon_concept_eg6

i got my statistics from skunk2. based on thier stage 1, 2, and 3. i have a set of stage 3's in my eg right now. where did you get yours? i do my research before i buy things. if your's is right prove it. otherwise you shut it. skunk2 based thier stuff off of the original type R and therefore try to improve from there. nothing more to be said.

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to answer 96 honda EK's question in short, GSR cams DO have higher lift and duration and are BETTER than ALL B16 cams wether they are JDM or not. and yes they drop right in. as for type-r cams, they ARE the best OEM B-Series cams. they changed a little over the years though; they got better.

STOCK GSR : b17a and b18c1 (Chilled Cast Core)

INTAKE lift - 10.6 mm,duration - 230 @1mm
EXHAUST lift - 9.4mm, duration - 227@1mm

- STOCK 1997-1999 ITR ($500-580/pr, ITR intake cam $250-290)

INTAKE lift - 11.5 mm, duration 240 @1mm
EXHAUST lift - 10.5mm, duration 235 @1mm


- STOCK CTR and 2000-2001 ITR (CTR intake cam $300-350)

INTAKE lift - 11.5 mm, duration 243 @1mm
EXHAUST lift - 10.5mm, duration 235 @1mm

Deetz

What you say makes no sense. I have personally owned 49 cars and built many different applications for myself and other customers. We have done numerous dyno's on many cams. On a stock B16A, a Type R cam set makes 2-3hp to the wheels....it is not a stage II cam.

In fact here are the specs of the later type R cams, compared to a Skunk2 Stage I cam Tuner Series, not Pro. A Skunk2 Stage II is even more aggressive!!

Civic Type-R And Integra Type-R(Integra Type R 2000/01 Spec)
Int-243 dur. / 11.5mm lift
Exh-235 dur. / 10.5mm lift
Valve Springs to be used: Stock B16A/GSR if using stock 8200 re-limit. Integra Type-R if using rev limit over 8200rpms. Mugen Valve Springs can also be used.
Description: These are great, reliable cams for the money. You can pick up a set for as little as $550.00 new if you are lucky! They will give good gains from midrange all the way until 8400rpms. These cams have stock idle characteristics.

Skunk2 Stage 1 Tuner Series
Int-252 dur. / 11.5mm lift
Exh-249 dur. / 10.8mm lift
Valve Springs to be used: Stock B16A/GSR if using stock 8200 re-limit. Integra Type-R if using rev limit over 8200rpms. Skunk2 Valve Springs can also be used.
Description: These are very underrated cams. They do cost around $100-$200 more than the Type-R cams but they also offer much more duration and will give more power than the Type-R cams. Similar power range of Type-R cams but stronger throughout the power band. This is a great set of cams for a budget minded B16A owner. These cams have stock idle characteristics. I would recommend using Skunk2 cam gears with these cams.

RCurioso88

well if you have a stock B16 motor and want a little bit more power without going too intricate, go with ITR cams. You won't be able to take full advantage of stage 2 cams with your stock compression and valvetrain so I'd get ITR cams and call it a day. Oh and as for the GSR cams being more aggresive than b16's, its true. I had a set of both in my LSVTEC and the GSR's were a better on the low to mid range compared to the b16. The b16 seemed to have it better in the upper RPM range. But now i've got BC Spec+ III's and its better than both lol