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Old 04-04-2002, 10:46 AM
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Default Got the front Ground Controls in! Pics!!

I couldn't get the rear lugs to come off. Actually, I did get one out of the 8. After trying with the impact gun and with a hand socket for several minutes, I gave up. I'm going to get a bar so I can get some leverage and try it again tommorrow.

Anyhow, the GC's are weird and I am not sure if I like them or not. Not even sure if they are safe for the Bilsteins or not :confused:

I will say this though! With all the hassle and the pics you are about to see, I would 100% go with true coilovers if I re-do my suspension after I graduate school.....

In the first pic you can see the difference in size between the Neuspeeds and the GC's:



Even with the sleeve on the GC, they are still several inches smaller than the Neuspeeds.

In this next picture you can see how small the GC is even with the sleeve. Notice the purple arrows and ALL the space in between the top of the spring and where it sits when the weight is put onto the car:



Before installing the GC / HD's back into the car I had to raise the GC back up pretty much as high as it would go:



There is the front drivers side installed and the skunk2 camber kit surrounding the shocks / sleeves:



When I put the schock and the GC together I made sure to leave the bumpstop as far up as possible. When I let the car down off the jack, the bumpstop came ALL the way down to the body of the shock. I don't think that is good, but I cut a 1/3rd off which was 1/2 the size of the stock bumpstop maybe I should of cut more......

Here's the final result.....

My dad riding by:



Front drivers side:



Wheel gap on the front driver's side:



Down the side:



Passenger's side:



Gap on the passenger's side:
(that purple circle represents a dent some a$$hole put on the car when my parents owned it)



P~E~A~C~E
Old 04-04-2002, 11:12 AM
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Nice.... Looks good. Hows the ride quality? I was thinking about getting a set of Bilsteins.
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Old 04-04-2002, 11:34 AM
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I think you have the wrong springs, especially since you say you bottomed out on the bump stop when you let the car down off the jack. I'm sure other GC owners will know for sure.

I'm also concerned about your lug problem. I don't know if it's such a hot idea to put a lot of tourque on those hex lugs. Some dipsh*t used an impact gun to tighten my lugs once and when I went to take them off I (a) about gave myself a hernia and (b) broke 1 of 4 studs. Replacing studs isn't hard, but it isn't fun either. If you end up brekaing some, post back, I'll give you some tips.
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I'm also concerned about your lug problem. I don't know if it's such a hot idea to put a lot of tourque on those hex lugs.
you should definatly follow the torque specs, and if you don't know what they are torque them all the same lbs if they aren't it could lead to some rotor warp...


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If you are worried about the bottoming out with the bilstiens... Did you get the sport shocks? they are an inch smaller for lowerd cars. The HD's will bottom out because they are made for stock ride hight. Those are the right springs. The GC setup is a no compromize setup, most use it for race only, cause you can get any spring rate. With the right setup the GC's can be a killer combo!
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Default Re: Got the front Ground Controls in! Pics!! (Nate)

dam thats a crazy difference.....nice drop though
Old 04-04-2002, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: Got the front Ground Controls in! Pics!! (cr00klyn718)

the reason why it is shorter is because it is adjustable. you can raise or lower the perches. imagine if the GC springs were as long as the neuspeeds... the only adjustment you can do is raise it up 4X4 style boyeee!
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Tender springs can take care of that gap for you.
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Go out and buy 3 or 4 spare lugs befory you try to get the back wheels off. You can always take them back if you dont need them. It will save you time in the long run.
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Nice
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how many inches have you dropped?
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Default Re: Got the front Ground Controls in! Pics!! (chusai)

all coilover sleeves are like that, i really don't like the design but i dont have enough extra cash flow for real coilovers, i have tokico blue with H&R sports on the coupe and Blues with GC's the blue/gc is alot stiffer and more for race with my spring rates but still rides good, my coupe rides just like stock i love it.
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what is the change in ride height with the h&rs
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Default Re: Got the front Ground Controls in! Pics!! (wotmsedan)

The H&R sports are 1.75 in front 1.5 in rear they perform so good, if i can get some pics i will post them, and i ment say i have the blue/GC setup on my hatch.
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Looks nice man. Glad to see you have the Skunk upper a-arms. You should take it to a race shop and have them set the ride heights, corner weigh it, and do an alignment.

Make sure you put anti-seize on the threads of the collars. Trust me.

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If you don't put some more negative camber back up front you are gonna rip the lips of your fenders out.
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Default Re: Got the front Ground Controls in! Pics!! (LX98Civic)

lx98civic.....i have GC also too but my setup is way different...can u take pictures of your back suspension and post it up...my setup is kind of the opposite....my front GC is all the way spunned down....is that normal? and the cylinder piece is not the same for my front...the cylinder piece i am using for the front has the smooth part on it and itz not all threaded like yours...my car also make noises wen i creep around and run some small bumps too...I NEED YOUR HELP!
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