slowazzhatch

well right now i have a jdm b16a in my civic hatchback - my ultimate goal is to run a 13.xx with stock internals and a stock head - basically all bolt-ons right now i am at a 14.84@91.37 that is how i drive everyday i pulled a 2.25 60ft also - you might how i will do this - well i already have all the bolt ons put igntion and some pulley- ignition i may get but i wont get pulleys - you may ask how i am going to do this? -well as or right now you all may know that the JDM b16a motor is OBD0 right, well my car was wired up to keep the OBD2 integra P72 ecu, i personally think this is f*in me up very badly - slowing me down a **** load - so i have a jun chipped p28 sitting in my room - i am waiting on a harness from blown90hatch - which i will be sending out the money for 2mar0 when i get this ecu in i hope to be around a 14.4 14.3 - maybe even a 14.2 - i hope to hit the 13.xx goal with some slicks - i think it can be done - what do you guys think? - am i shootin for tood good of a time with that ECU, should i even expect a gain with the ECU? i hope i will gain something from it...what do you guys think?

any input welcome
Matt

976

List your bolt-ons.
Have you done weight reduction at all?
Tires?
What wheels?

NSXmatt on this board has a full interior hatch with 2nd gen b16a and runs 14.2 on street tires and few bolt-ons.

I would recommend CTR cams and upgrade intake/tb/manifold... Your goal is very realistic. Your car should be obd1. The p28 ecu is auto right, so your getting that chipped?

slowazzhatch

list my bolt ons here we go...

99-00 Civic Si AEM CAI
JG 64 MM TB
Skunk2 Intake Manifold
GSR Fuel rail
Fuel Pressure Reg (set to 39 psi idle)
Stock Injectors
AEM Cam gears
Bosch Plug wires
Bosch plus4 Plugs
DC Sports 4-1 header
2.25 inch straight pipe exhuast (no cat no resenator)
ACT stage 3 Clutch
Aftermarket Axles (my stockers broke)
VAFC
Jun Chipped P28 9100 Redline, 4400 VTEC X-over

99-00 Civic Si Rims with Kuhmo 196/50/R15 rubber (kuhmo ecsta supra)

spektrum

I sure as hell hope you would hit a 13.xx with all of that.

I run a 14.52 on slicks and all I have is 4-2-1 dc headers,B&M FPR set at 40, aem short ram, stage 2 CM clutch and straight piped hayame exhaust.

And that run was with full interior, 1/4 tank of 93 octane gas, and my 175 pound ***.

If you can't beat me, then there is SOMETHING wrong with this picture.

By the way, I drive a 96 DX Coupe with a USDM 00' Si B16A2


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SikofFalln

Instead of getting a whole new wiring harness why wouldn't you just get a jumper, like the one skunk 2 makes?

AussieK24

Forget the bolt ons, what have you done to reduce weight...

UltRaH22

ahhhh i see one major problem no one has mentioned yet that may break u in the 13s right NOW........ get those god dayum bosch crap outta there... dont u know NGK is meant for hondas... it says it right on the motor most the time on those stickers near the cam gears... get some NGK or MSD wires and NGK platinums or laser plat. i bet u get a few 10ths.

JaeOne3345

stock honda wires are not ngk, they r sumitomo or some name like that. ngk plugs stock but the wires arent ngk.

ucb

i dont think spark plugs will play that big a of role. alot of very fast cars run stock ignition with copper plugs

1 2 NV

your VTEC x over point from the P72 is hurting u. id say the biggest thing thats hurting u is cams. u might have a set of auto B16 cams which r crap. get some CTR cams and tune it and i think u could run better. u have spent a ton of money on crap u dont need and will do very little. ur trap speed is no where near close to 13.XX

hybridnorth

iTrader: (2)

i got my b16a to run consistant 13.70's and hit a a best 13.54, my 60's foots were 1.80's

with the following mods,

chipped p28
clutch masters 4 puck
intake
header
full 2.5 inch exhaust
cam gears
ctr cams
slicks

jdmb16ahybrid

i dont think i have a set oof auto b16a cams - they pull all the way to redline - i have been on a dyno to prove they do - dont auto b16a cams only pull to 5500 then drop off or something? - yea i was thinkin

CTR intake
ITR exhaust cam

i know it is no where near a 13.xx my trap speed, but my ecu is ****** me up - i just ordered a jumper harness from blown90hatch on this board - i sent him the money on wed i think...or tues - i'm not sure sometime... but i sent the money off to him so hopefulyy by next week i will have my ecu in there - weight reduction - my car weights 2460 with me in it no spair tire, no rear seat. that about all - basically nothin in the hatch part but the rear panels...

i am putting in a jun chipped p28

vivid02

Are you planning to buy slicks? I think you might be able to do it.

nsxmatt

Yeah slicks, more weight reduction, and lots and lots of practice to get used to launching a Tq less B16. They are real picky to get a fast time. Check the sig, I,H,E

Slow CX

Get some lite weight rims. I have SI wheels and they are heavy as ****.

OC 335i

Uhmm. No.

That's one of the dumbest "tech" posts I've seen here.

Plugs are plugs, wires are wires. Unless he has some major work done to his car, there is not much of a need for aftermarket wires/plugs/or ignition. Spend your money elsewhere.

EB_kid

it sounds very possible with the set up you have. with some practice launches and the new ECU you shold be close or at your goal.

and no the plugs don't matter...

hybridreams

Slicks, 900 lbs springs in rear, and some weight reduction

BAM! 13.9 easy.

vivid02

Fugg it just weld the rear shocks or use the hocky puck method.

93hybrid

I havent done the 1/4 yet but my time is listed in my sig. what all do you have done to your motor. i have alot of bolt ons too. im also tryin to hit the 13.s and 12.s with dyno tuning though i should be in the 8's in the 1/8th

93hybrid

sorry i didnt read the whold thread nevermind about the boltons

1 2 NV

im still not diggin the P28 with different program. a program like JUN needs more mods, more compression and cams, which u have none of the above. even on slicks i dont think ur rollin 13s. i could b wrong but u need more than u have.

1 2 NV

i can tell ya a couple things. forget the dyno tuning and do 1 if not all the following things. 1. learn to drive 2. get stickier tires. u need 1 or both of the mentioned cause u got great MPH (not 12 second MPH) but definitely enough for mid 13s. its obvious ur 60 fts suck and as a result ur 1/8th sucks. a few yrs ago i ran a best of 9.1 1/8th at 75MPH and that was good for mid 14s in my 2500lb coupe.

JV

Am i the only one who noticed that he is talking about an "EK" hatch and not an "EG"...

93hybrid

1. i can drive
2. i need slicks
3. i spin 4 gears and sometimes 5th. (act stage 5 clutch grabs like a bitch) and spinning gives a higher speed but a lower et

thanks for your thoughts though. oh and this is in an eg coupe


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