DelCarajo

I'm looking to replace the gauge cluster in my del sol because the speedometer isn't working. Yes, I already replaced the VSS, wasn't the problem. I have a 1993 Del Sol Si D16Z6 with a 5 speed manual transmission. And I'm finding conflicting information on what clusters are interchangable. Some places say all clusters up to 96 are interchangeable but I think they are talking only about civics and not Del Sols. Some places say transmission maters and other don't. Just looking to clarify what specifics I need to know. Like will a cluster from a 1993 Del Sol S D15 with a 5 speed manual transmisison work? What about an automatic? Hopefully I can get some clarification.

splashy

I would try to get a cluster from a del sol si with mt. On with auto trans will have the p, d, 2, d3, d4, n , r down the middle. I dont think year matters

yhammer

I have a 94 del sol s with JdmD16A and mt . the S cluster works fine.

DelCarajo

Didn't the Del Sol S come with a different tire size stock than the Si? Would the speedometer have to be calibrated differently for that?

splashy

thats why I said get one from an si

andoxviii

iTrader: (1)

No. It gets that reading from the VSS and displays it accordingly.

Former User

What makes you believe that the cluster or speedometer is the problem?

Is CEL code 17 thrown?

belairbrian

While the auto and manual clusters are different. The tach and speedometer sub-components are the same for all del sols.

So you can remove the speedometer from any (S or Si) auto or manual and install it into a different cluster.

tony_2018

People who've swapped clusters from other model cars don't really have an issue with the mph being off, or the rpm...or I've never heard of it. Now if it were from a totally different generation, s2k cluster, thats gonna require some work.

DelCarajo

I guesss I should go into detail about the problem. There is no check engine light. The speedometer when the car starts will read very low (ie 5mph when I'm going 25... 10 when I'm going 50. It will get increasingly more accurate the longer I drive. It seems to be worse with cold weather. It usually does not completely correct itself and read normally. The odometer seems to work fine independently although I think that even it seems to be a little off but not by the same magnitude by far. The trip odometer does not work at all. There is never any needle bouncing and the issues the same every time I drive. I already replaced the VSS. Is there anything else it could be?

Former User

It does sound like the speedometer/odometer unit is bad. Did you tighten the rear speedometer screws? This will often break the speedometer or make it read incorrectly.

DelCarajo

Can anyone else confirm this? This would be useful if I can take any speedometer and drop it in. Also are there any other speedometers (just the speedo, not the cluster) that will drop into the Del Sol cluster? Like the Civic or Accord from similar years?

DelCarajo

No I haven't touched it yet. When putting in a new one is there a certain torque spec for those screws?

nateasham

I have taken my del sol cluster apart a few times and all I did was just make sure the screws were snug. Just make sure NOT to tighten them so much that you might crack the flexible circuit board or casing. I have most of a stock del sol si cluster for sale if you need. It doesn't have the clock or the lens cover I'm reusing those parts on my custom gauge cluster. You can easily reuse yours. Tach, speedo, fuel and temp all working.

DelCarajo

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nateasham

For reference I used this video when taking mine apart. Well done and easy.

deschlong

iTrader: (8)

I don't believe it is correct. On the 5G Civic, the speedos varied by tire size that came stock on the car. E.g., a VX speedo is a different part number from an Si speedo.

EDIT: Looks like I am mistaken, at least for del Sols. The part numbers are all the same here, for S, Si, VTEC del Sols: Toronto Honda Parts - Parts List Maybe they all had the same tire size.

DelCarajo

They did not have the same size tire. Although I'm not sure if the part numbers on that site constitute definitive evidence.

nateasham

There was definitely different speedometers (and tachometers) for each models cluster.
the vss sends speed to the cluster via a number of pulses per mile. I have a B18C swapped into my del sol si. Speedo is still accurate and I did NOT swap clusters. Tires are different size than stock but I think it's all so close the difference is negligible.