KURRRRWA

Hello I have a 1999 Honda Civic and I bought a Sparco 4 point harness, and the instructions suck. Can anybody help me with this?

I have the front 2 harness bolts done (the back bolts of the seat) but I can't do the back ones right. Am I supposed to use the factory holes from the back seatbelts? I tried that and the one side of the harness that is closest to the drivers side door is way off to the side. Then I undid it, and bolted them both onto the same bolt (Rear seat, drivers side, the part of the seatbelt with the button that you plug the belt into) I know this isn't right because now it's like a 3 point harness.

Please if anybody could help me out, maybe even a picture, that would be great because I have a race this weekend.

Keep in mind I have the stock seat.


Edit: Heres the harness i have http://www.sparcousa.com/pharness_tuning.asp?id=252




[Modified by SD99Si, 9:20 AM 10/18/2002]

ShortbusEK

either sell the harness.. or go have a roll cage installed.. the harness's without a roll cage is dangerous... because if in the case you roll it... the harness is going to keep you from being able to move and not be able to bend down if the roof caves in.. but if you have a good built roll cage it will roll on the cage not on your head that you cant move out the way.

KURRRRWA

I do not drive my car hard enough to ever roll it.

I need help putting my harness in.

Thanks

KURRRRWA

ttt

KURRRRWA

Nobody can help me?

ShortbusEK

people probably are not going to say anything because.. its dangerous.. most people that have posted bout harnesses.. feel the same way i do.. its a fact.. and they are not designed to be installed without one there is no specific way to do it. but if you must know here is how i have seen it done... take the left lap strap and the left shoulder strap and hook both of them to the back left bolt on your seat bracket.. and do the same with the right side but attach them to the right rear bolt on the seat bracket. i dont know which harness you have so hopefully the shoulder straps are long enough.

Edit: they are sparco they should do exactly like i said.


[Modified by 95DelSolSI, 6:01 PM 10/18/2002]

KURRRRWA

I had someone come out and show me how to do it right.

Dude I am not going to roll my car doing SoloII runs.... as for the street, I will still have my stock belt.

ShortbusEK

im not saying your goin to.. its just a safety issue.. there are some racing sactions that dont allow it

KURRRRWA

Hey everybody - is it true that you think harnesses are that dangerous?

ShortbusEK

this is probably bout to get locked but anyways.. i didnt say they are not safe.. they are not safe when used without a roll cage.. i know out here to auto-x if you have a harness a no cage they wont let you wear the harness they will make you use you factory belt... i was just telling you what i know or have been told.. take it however you want im not tryin to be mean or anything.. dont ask for help if you are just gonna whine about an answer that someone gives you cuz its not what you wanted to hear.. anyways good luck with the soloII runs..


[Modified by 95DelSolSI, 1:17 AM 10/21/2002]

Kamin

yes
well they are dangerous with NO CAGE.
and just so you know, civics can roll at autox's

ShortbusEK

I rest my case

EleanoR

It is just not worth the chance to roll your car using a harness and NO cage. I mean if you are serious about getting faster on either a road course or Auto-X then yes by all means get a harness to feel one with the vehicle but also get a cage/roll car to prevent injury in case of a rollover. Anything can happen. Keep it safe!

KURRRRWA

Today was the event. The harness worked out great, and my car did not roll over.

Thanks for the help

stormy

for cars without a roll cage they sell a y into one rear belt that you can bolt in the back seat area using one of the clip holes. these belts can compress the spine but are far supperior to stock anyway.

Solracer

"Dude I am not going to roll my car doing SoloII runs"

You do not know how wrong that is, plenty of ars have rolled A solo ii's even at low speeds, granted most of them were stock suspension cars with R comp tires, but it can happen, make a mistake try to correct that mistake for to long and over you go, and do expect your insurance to cover it either.


[Modified by Solracer, 8:58 AM 10/21/2002]

stormy

a couple of guys with SI's I know have found out the hardway.