First K20(RSX) EG swap
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First K20(RSX) EG swap
I got a friends RSX that was basicly totaled (so i can pull any parts I want from it)
I need some info on how to do it, I've seen the Hasport write up
but I need info on wiring,which ECU to use, axles, if I can put RSX hub and knuckles on the EG hatch,and how to install the shifter and transmission and some other little stuff
I need some info on how to do it, I've seen the Hasport write up
but I need info on wiring,which ECU to use, axles, if I can put RSX hub and knuckles on the EG hatch,and how to install the shifter and transmission and some other little stuff
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Re: First K20(RSX) EG swap (SupraRXZ)
http://rywire.com/store/9295-c...ff082
for a harness
and i hope his rsx was a type s a stock rsx would suck
for a harness
and i hope his rsx was a type s a stock rsx would suck
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ya its a type s
everything is there and in workin condition the frame is just messed up
I want to put the RSX seats in too and hopefully if i can find info to do a 5 lug conversion with the RSX stuff
everything is there and in workin condition the frame is just messed up
I want to put the RSX seats in too and hopefully if i can find info to do a 5 lug conversion with the RSX stuff
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Re: First K20(RSX) EG swap (93sihatchy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SupraRXZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya its a type s
everything is there and in workin condition the frame is just messed up
I want to put the RSX seats in too and hopefully if i can find info to do a 5 lug conversion with the RSX stuff</TD></TR></TABLE>
As far as I know you can't use the RSX suspension. The have a complete different system (Mcpherson or something like that) than what comes on the older generation civics. It's possible that someone has figured it out but I'm not sure.
k20.org is a good site to learn about the the k series swap. Also, someone has done the seats into a civic, but you have to custom fab the brackets and stuff. And it doesn't look that good IMO. But hey, good luck to you.
everything is there and in workin condition the frame is just messed up
I want to put the RSX seats in too and hopefully if i can find info to do a 5 lug conversion with the RSX stuff</TD></TR></TABLE>
As far as I know you can't use the RSX suspension. The have a complete different system (Mcpherson or something like that) than what comes on the older generation civics. It's possible that someone has figured it out but I'm not sure.
k20.org is a good site to learn about the the k series swap. Also, someone has done the seats into a civic, but you have to custom fab the brackets and stuff. And it doesn't look that good IMO. But hey, good luck to you.
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Re: First K20(RSX) EG swap (SOHC4life 96)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aarontrini85 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and i hope his rsx was a type s a stock rsx would suck</TD></TR></TABLE>
why would it suck? Its still a K and its still VTEC so its 160 HP, Big deal if it were dirt cheap from a freind or free none the less no matter what K series it is I would take that thing in a heart beat base is good enough your only out 35 HP about and you dont have to fill up with premium.
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Re: First K20(RSX) EG swap (Jhonny Ricer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jhonny Ricer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
why would it suck? Its still a K and its still VTEC so its 160 HP, Big deal if it were dirt cheap from a freind or free none the less no matter what K series it is I would take that thing in a heart beat base is good enough your only out 35 HP about and you dont have to fill up with premium. </TD></TR></TABLE>
It would suck because it's thousands of dollars in parts, labor, fabrication, and wiring for a B16 swap.
why would it suck? Its still a K and its still VTEC so its 160 HP, Big deal if it were dirt cheap from a freind or free none the less no matter what K series it is I would take that thing in a heart beat base is good enough your only out 35 HP about and you dont have to fill up with premium. </TD></TR></TABLE>
It would suck because it's thousands of dollars in parts, labor, fabrication, and wiring for a B16 swap.
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Re: First K20(RSX) EG swap (Eran)
so what your saying is that extra 35 hp from the type S is worth those thousands of dollars if so than that is pretty moronic
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Re: First K20(RSX) EG swap (Jhonny Ricer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jhonny Ricer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what your saying is that extra 35 hp from the type S is worth those thousands of dollars if so than that is pretty moronic </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm talking about the THOUSANDS of extra dollars past the cost of the motor for a custom header, exhaust, chipped ecu, custom wire harness, mounts, and install labor.
And I wasn't aware that 200 - 160 = 35 ..... might want to touch up on that 2nd grade math.
It's 40 extra horsepower, and a 6-speed transmission. And yes, that is worth far more ... in the same way that a B16B is worth far more than a B16A.
I'm talking about the THOUSANDS of extra dollars past the cost of the motor for a custom header, exhaust, chipped ecu, custom wire harness, mounts, and install labor.
And I wasn't aware that 200 - 160 = 35 ..... might want to touch up on that 2nd grade math.
It's 40 extra horsepower, and a 6-speed transmission. And yes, that is worth far more ... in the same way that a B16B is worth far more than a B16A.
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Re: First K20(RSX) EG swap (Eran)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eran »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'm talking about the THOUSANDS of extra dollars past the cost of the motor for a custom header, exhaust, chipped ecu, custom wire harness, mounts, and install labor.
And I wasn't aware that 200 - 160 = 35 ..... might want to touch up on that 2nd grade math.
It's 40 extra horsepower, and a 6-speed transmission. And yes, that is worth far more ... in the same way that a B16B is worth far more than a B16A.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ok so the Type S has 5 more HP than the SI? Because as far as I knew they both used the same motor for the 06 SI and Type S they only rated them at at 195 the JDM is supposedly 200 HP not the USDM, So if they are oh wow I was 5 off point is 40 Hp is nothing comparing a motor, The Type S goes for 5K while the base goes for 1-2K Who cares about the 6th gear if you want it so bad spend an extra grand and get it there its still only around 3-4K, And adding an extra 30-40 HP isnt so hard there you go you have a type S motor for about 4500 500 dollars saved in all realistics your saying that because you get one more gear and an extra 35-40 Hp on the same motor its not worth it? If thats not worth it than neither is LS/VTEC but I see them poping up like the population in china...
I'm talking about the THOUSANDS of extra dollars past the cost of the motor for a custom header, exhaust, chipped ecu, custom wire harness, mounts, and install labor.
And I wasn't aware that 200 - 160 = 35 ..... might want to touch up on that 2nd grade math.
It's 40 extra horsepower, and a 6-speed transmission. And yes, that is worth far more ... in the same way that a B16B is worth far more than a B16A.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ok so the Type S has 5 more HP than the SI? Because as far as I knew they both used the same motor for the 06 SI and Type S they only rated them at at 195 the JDM is supposedly 200 HP not the USDM, So if they are oh wow I was 5 off point is 40 Hp is nothing comparing a motor, The Type S goes for 5K while the base goes for 1-2K Who cares about the 6th gear if you want it so bad spend an extra grand and get it there its still only around 3-4K, And adding an extra 30-40 HP isnt so hard there you go you have a type S motor for about 4500 500 dollars saved in all realistics your saying that because you get one more gear and an extra 35-40 Hp on the same motor its not worth it? If thats not worth it than neither is LS/VTEC but I see them poping up like the population in china...
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Re: First K20(RSX) EG swap (Jhonny Ricer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jhonny Ricer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ok so the Type S has 5 more HP than the SI? Because as far as I knew they both used the same motor for the 06 SI and Type S they only rated them at at 195 the JDM is supposedly 200 HP not the USDM, So if they are oh wow I was 5 off point is 40 Hp is nothing comparing a motor, The Type S goes for 5K while the base goes for 1-2K Who cares about the 6th gear if you want it so bad spend an extra grand and get it there its still only around 3-4K, And adding an extra 30-40 HP isnt so hard there you go you have a type S motor for about 4500 500 dollars saved in all realistics your saying that because you get one more gear and an extra 35-40 Hp on the same motor its not worth it? If thats not worth it than neither is LS/VTEC but I see them poping up like the population in china...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Actually depending on which year that motor is from you could be 50 hp off!
2005-2007 had 210 hp.
Also you don't really know anything about K series do you? The base K series doesn't respond well to bolt ons and to make up that 35-40 or 50 hp is going to take alot of $$$. Unless you go turbo thent that is a different story. Another thing too is the design of the engine. The Type-s was really made to kick the **** out of it where as the base model was for fuel economy. Also 6spd tranny makes a difference as the gearing is shorter meaning better acceleration = more fun!
Ok so the Type S has 5 more HP than the SI? Because as far as I knew they both used the same motor for the 06 SI and Type S they only rated them at at 195 the JDM is supposedly 200 HP not the USDM, So if they are oh wow I was 5 off point is 40 Hp is nothing comparing a motor, The Type S goes for 5K while the base goes for 1-2K Who cares about the 6th gear if you want it so bad spend an extra grand and get it there its still only around 3-4K, And adding an extra 30-40 HP isnt so hard there you go you have a type S motor for about 4500 500 dollars saved in all realistics your saying that because you get one more gear and an extra 35-40 Hp on the same motor its not worth it? If thats not worth it than neither is LS/VTEC but I see them poping up like the population in china...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Actually depending on which year that motor is from you could be 50 hp off!
2005-2007 had 210 hp.
Also you don't really know anything about K series do you? The base K series doesn't respond well to bolt ons and to make up that 35-40 or 50 hp is going to take alot of $$$. Unless you go turbo thent that is a different story. Another thing too is the design of the engine. The Type-s was really made to kick the **** out of it where as the base model was for fuel economy. Also 6spd tranny makes a difference as the gearing is shorter meaning better acceleration = more fun!
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Re: First K20(RSX) EG swap (Jhonny Ricer)
its also a diffrant kind of vtec it has and has alot more potential then the regular rsx.
basilcy if your droping in a stock rsx motor your droping in a b16a there isnt realy a diffrance in any thing the power bands even look close
i dont see how that could be worth probly 5k more then a b16 but what ever its a type s motor he has any way and im sure he will be happy with it plus were getting off topic.
basilcy if your droping in a stock rsx motor your droping in a b16a there isnt realy a diffrance in any thing the power bands even look close
i dont see how that could be worth probly 5k more then a b16 but what ever its a type s motor he has any way and im sure he will be happy with it plus were getting off topic.
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Just if you were wondering the Motor I got is a 05
so its a k20z1, 210hp 143 lbs trq
6 speed EG FTW!
as soon as Im not lazy, I'll get pics of the car and the motor
Modified by SupraRXZ at 4:21 PM 6/3/2007
so its a k20z1, 210hp 143 lbs trq
6 speed EG FTW!
as soon as Im not lazy, I'll get pics of the car and the motor
Modified by SupraRXZ at 4:21 PM 6/3/2007
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SupraRXZ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just if you were wondering the Motor I got is a 05
so its a k20z1, 210hp 143 lbs trq
6 speed EG FTW!
as soon as Im not lazy, I'll get pics of the car and the motor</TD></TR></TABLE>
that should be fun is it your daily ?? and get hondata kpro and a tune it will be well worth it
so its a k20z1, 210hp 143 lbs trq
6 speed EG FTW!
as soon as Im not lazy, I'll get pics of the car and the motor</TD></TR></TABLE>
that should be fun is it your daily ?? and get hondata kpro and a tune it will be well worth it
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Re: First K20(RSX) EG swap (Jhonny Ricer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jhonny Ricer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ok so the Type S has 5 more HP than the SI? Because as far as I knew they both used the same motor for the 06 SI and Type S they only rated them at at 195 the JDM is supposedly 200 HP not the USDM, So if they are oh wow I was 5 off point is 40 Hp is nothing comparing a motor, The Type S goes for 5K while the base goes for 1-2K Who cares about the 6th gear if you want it so bad spend an extra grand and get it there its still only around 3-4K, And adding an extra 30-40 HP isnt so hard there you go you have a type S motor for about 4500 500 dollars saved in all realistics your saying that because you get one more gear and an extra 35-40 Hp on the same motor its not worth it? If thats not worth it than neither is LS/VTEC but I see them poping up like the population in china...</TD></TR></TABLE>
that extra N/A 50ish hp is a difference of running 15 sec and 12 sec...so yes thats really important
i care about the 6th gear makes the car accelerate faster with 1-6
as people have said its like comparing b16 to a b18c5...that few extra thousand is worth it...since you will be spending twice teh swap trying to get those extra HP unless your F/I.
Ok so the Type S has 5 more HP than the SI? Because as far as I knew they both used the same motor for the 06 SI and Type S they only rated them at at 195 the JDM is supposedly 200 HP not the USDM, So if they are oh wow I was 5 off point is 40 Hp is nothing comparing a motor, The Type S goes for 5K while the base goes for 1-2K Who cares about the 6th gear if you want it so bad spend an extra grand and get it there its still only around 3-4K, And adding an extra 30-40 HP isnt so hard there you go you have a type S motor for about 4500 500 dollars saved in all realistics your saying that because you get one more gear and an extra 35-40 Hp on the same motor its not worth it? If thats not worth it than neither is LS/VTEC but I see them poping up like the population in china...</TD></TR></TABLE>
that extra N/A 50ish hp is a difference of running 15 sec and 12 sec...so yes thats really important
i care about the 6th gear makes the car accelerate faster with 1-6
as people have said its like comparing b16 to a b18c5...that few extra thousand is worth it...since you will be spending twice teh swap trying to get those extra HP unless your F/I.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aarontrini85 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
that should be fun is it your daily ?? and get hondata kpro and a tune it will be well worth it </TD></TR></TABLE>
well since its a brand new motor with less than 10k on it, ya its gunna be a daily lol
that should be fun is it your daily ?? and get hondata kpro and a tune it will be well worth it </TD></TR></TABLE>
well since its a brand new motor with less than 10k on it, ya its gunna be a daily lol
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Im not trying to ruin anybodys thread I was just curios as to why people think its not worth it to go base model K. And thank you for the info. To each his own and i wouldnt mind swapping out my SOHC for any K type S or not.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The Lobster »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
as people have said its like comparing b16 to a b18c5...that few extra thousand is worth it...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't necessarily agree with that, maybe NA, but NA shouldn't be used much in the same sentence as 4 cylinders.
You can buy a B16 and boost it on stock ints and eat up ITR's all day long for less price than it would cost for an ITR swap.
as people have said its like comparing b16 to a b18c5...that few extra thousand is worth it...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't necessarily agree with that, maybe NA, but NA shouldn't be used much in the same sentence as 4 cylinders.
You can buy a B16 and boost it on stock ints and eat up ITR's all day long for less price than it would cost for an ITR swap.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I don't necessarily agree with that, maybe NA, but NA shouldn't be used much in the same sentence as 4 cylinders.
You can buy a B16 and boost it on stock ints and eat up ITR's all day long for less price than it would cost for an ITR swap.</TD></TR></TABLE>
your semi right. i guess it really applies mostly to K motors. As an All motor K will easily prepel you into 12s with the type S or R motor with minor bolt ons...include Cams and your good for a good daily driven fast motor.
I don't necessarily agree with that, maybe NA, but NA shouldn't be used much in the same sentence as 4 cylinders.
You can buy a B16 and boost it on stock ints and eat up ITR's all day long for less price than it would cost for an ITR swap.</TD></TR></TABLE>
your semi right. i guess it really applies mostly to K motors. As an All motor K will easily prepel you into 12s with the type S or R motor with minor bolt ons...include Cams and your good for a good daily driven fast motor.
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