RedHatch

Is there fake mugen or spoon stuff? cause it all looks like so much fun but money is of the essence.

DR. ON POINT

dont get fake stuff....if u want something get it....dont try and make it appear that someone else mad e it....keep it real

.nate

yes.

rota for an example makes imitation spoon wheels.

I agree with On Point EK tho.. keep it real, unless its something like the wheels or something, cause theyre not like exact copies or something.


[Modified by TheFLY, 10:44 PM 1/2/2002]

RedHatch

That stuff aint cheap!

.nate

dont get it then IMO There are plenty of US companies that make parts just as good as spoon.

RedHatch

links?

98EK4

The way i look at it If you want to be a POSER then get the fake stuff. But if you want to spend the extra little bit of money get the good stuff. It will pay off in the long run to get the good stuff. I have a 98 HB with Real Racing Hart CP035's and I have a Spoon chinny on the way. B16a6 with CTR Cams, 5zigen Fireball Exst So the Point is to be Original.


[Modified by 98EK4, 10:59 PM 1/2/2002]

B18C5-EH2

Okay Sir Brags-a-Lot, what is a B16A6? Do you mean D16A6? Or B16A2? I'm not really sure. Anyways, that's great that you've got that ****, but I love my FAKE-*** Rota C8 wheels. Not that they even look just like the Mugens, OR that Mugen even made 15'' MF8's, but anyways, the money saved on some WHEELS could go for go-fast **** like a better engine.

And lastly Sir Brags-a-Lot, you say it's all about being original, but it's IMPOSSIBLE these days. Do you think you've got the only EK on CP-035 wheels and a SPOON "chinny?" Tell me what your car looks like and I can find you a pic of it - even if it's not even your car. Can't be original in a Honda these days unless you do retarded ****, and even THAT'S not original either.

If I had the choice between some "fake" wheels and a B18C5, or some "real" wheels and a B16A, I'd choose choice number 1.

Buy what ever the **** you want to. While I will say that the Rota Slipstream is an attempt by Rota to cash in on the SPOON craze, I'd still steer away from $485.00 per wheel wheels that can be EASILY STOLEN and put it towards REAL performance goodies.

I'm really not an ***, but your attempt to be an elitist over a guy who JUST said he's on a tight budget made me angry. I have one more thing to say:

Speed NEVER goes out of style, and SPEED IS "KEEPING IT REAL."

[Modified by B18C5-EH2, 11:13 PM 1/2/2002]


[Modified by B18C5-EH2, 8:52 PM 1/4/2002]

RedHatch

Thank you for "enlightening me". And yes it is hard to be original these days. At my school so many kids are getting civics and whenever you tell someone you have one, they automatically think crappy body kit, boot wing, 18's and stickers. Oh and B18C5-EH2 thanx.

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problem solved...


for the i dont give a FAWK racer...

get bogarts .. leave stock rims and be happy and if stock isnt good enough buy HX rims

EKen9

Amen to that!!

Cru Jones

98EK4 -what the hell is a b16a6? And if you think about it we are all posers, your just a poser with more money or less bills to pay.


[Modified by B16A3, 2:23 AM 1/3/2002]

B18C5-EH2

If you think about it, all this JDM **** is in essence, POSING unless you drive a REAL JDM car from Japan, complete with RHD and all.

I like some JDM **** too, but where do you draw the line? If paying 4 times as much for a JDM product that's marginally better at best is "keeping it real," then I'll be a faker.

But at least I'll be a FAST faker!

asiandoood

i got rotas...i dont care what people say...its not like i claim them to be real mugens. you can tell what is real and what is not. i got them for my daily driving and daily commute...i dont need a 400-500 dollar rim to show that im "original" or if i "keep it real" or not. if you want to keep it real, dont go saying you have something you dont. if i was a hardcore racer, with nothing else to do, sure, i'll fork out the money for the Spoons and Mugens...but im just a starving college student with the love of cars and performance. Rotas make good wheels that are good looking, lightweight and cheap, and thats all i look for for now.




[Modified by asiandoood, 2:56 AM 1/3/2002]

DR. ON POINT

Thats an awesome quote

98EK4

B18C5 --a B16a6 come out of 98-00 SIR II.

Phil B

I thought the SiRII was 92-95. Wouldn't the 98-00 be SiRIII? Or is it just called the SiR? Or am I talking out my ***?

what's the diff anywhoo? I got a B16Asomething. It's out of a damn Integra. But it's fawkin fast. That's the important part.

WAFFLES

B18C5-----Thank you for letting everyone know what's up. I have been preaching this **** forever and everyone seems to talk **** about it. It's nice to see someone else who agrees so whole-heartedly. Props my man.

P.S.-I've noticed you've been putting people in their place and telling them how it is ever since you've changed your screen name from EG to EH. WHy?(not that I'm pissed, I'm glad)

Everyone who thinks a b16a and real SPOON wheels is KEEPING IT REAL------read my signature!

DIZASTICAL

its about time that somebody blew up and told it like it is . you have just given a true example of "keepin it real" .

98EK4

not trying to say that fake stuff is slower or anything like that what i was trying to say if you want to be more orginal. he should get the Original stuff that way it is less likely for some one to try and copy him.
here is a link for the b16a6 http://hybrid.honda-perf.org/tech/variants.html

jonas

i agree with B18C5...

B18C5-EH2

First of all I don't understand what you mean when you say to get the original parts so you'll be "original" and won't be copied. What is that supposed to mean? You can still buy the 4 times-as-much SPOON wheels and those who buy more SPOONS or even the Rotas will still be "copying," right? You're making it sound like spending shitloads of money is the "Right of Passage" in this Honda World, and that's so untrue that it's funny.

As for the B16A6? Please tell me EXACTLY which car it comes from. WHAT market is it for? Japan? The JDM motors usually don't have a number after the B16 - yes i've seen the SPOON-prepped B18C3, but it's SPOON, not Honda.

I think that link you provided COULD be incorrect - it does say that that car comes with a Y2 tranny. What in the hell is that?

Then again, I could be wrong about the B16A6, but i'd like to know WHERE it came from. Could be euro-spec?

Now, on to WAFFLES question.

First of all, i've known for a while now that the CORRECT chassy code for the USDM 1992-1995 Hatch is EH2 or EH3.

My name used to be B18C5-EG6. Why? Because I thought it would be neat to have a name telling my engine code and the would-be JDM chassy code too. That is, until I saw the horrible attitudes about all the JDM **** vs. "****" from a lot of people here. I don't want to be associated with all that comes with being "JDM."

What do I mean? A lot of the Japanese products are very high in quality, and they are functional. But how MUCH will you pay for this ****? There ARE other alternatives - CHEAPER and sometimes even BETTER alternatives out there.

Example? These stupid-*** SPOON, Toda, and Mugen ECUs for over $1,200.00. what BULLSHIT! you can spend the same on a fully stand-alone ECU from the likes of HonData or HalTech and be able to fully tune the ECU and even have data-logging. those coockie-cutter over-rated piles of **** listed above can't do that. "They're tuned to my motor dude..." is what some elitist dick will tell you about his "JDM" ecu, but EVERY motor is different. The ONLY way to know that you're ECU is tuned to YOUR motor is to get a stand-alone and tune it to YOUR motor!

That's just ONE example - I think that one is strong enough by itself.

I have a few JDM pieces on/in my car, but NOT for the bullshit JDM status. I have a Japanese Manufactured final drive gear in my car. It's made by ATS, and it is of THE highest quality and there are NO other alternatives out there if you want a 4.929 final drive. THAT's why I got it. It could have been made in Wyoming and i still would have bought it.

The JDM craze has also become another way to show status. That's what it was all about even in the beginning I guess, but i didn't realize it until recently. People who glorify the JDM **** and then say it's not for status are full of ****.

I tried to have a discussion about what exactly is YOUR own definition of JDM, but it was immedaitely locked. I was totally calm about it and I was trying to have a nice discussion about what each of us thinks JDM means to us.

Oh well. I've typed enough for now. Does anyone else see where I'm coming from here?

EDITED too many times for grammatical errors

[Modified by B18C5-EH2, 8:43 PM 1/4/2002]


[Modified by B18C5-EH2, 8:45 PM 1/4/2002]


[Modified by B18C5-EH2, 8:47 PM 1/4/2002]

WAFFLES

I couldn't have said it better...wait i did a while ago and everyone told me how I was stupid and full of **** for feeling tired of this CRAZE.

Anyways, my question was what made you start to be so ......ummm.....how do i say this....well, unpatient(maybe). I am all for it bro, just wondering what made you start.

B18C5-EH2

What made me start was seeing people ripping on others cars for not being "JDM."

Then there are others who have NO ******* clue about any of this Honda stuff, and they just jump head first into this **** and immediately start to talk about building a JDM car because they read too much Super Street and ****. A LOT of the JDM stuff has no real purpose or value over some USDM or U.S aftermarket stuff.

I hope someone won't be so stupid as to combat what I'm saying by telling me that JDM **** is higher quality, OEM quality, etc. I've BEEN there - I already know that. But sometimes the little extra quality - if it's even better - is NOT worth the MUCH higher price tag.

WAFFLES