flastreetscene

I've heard that custom fabricated turbo kits are significantly cheaper than complete kits. Would it be really hard to assemble and fabricate it myself with no previous assembly experience? Or would it be wiser to stick with a complete kit? Thanks.

Ricey McRicerton

I would suggest sticking with a complete kit if this is your first try. Maybe if you have a friend or someone with some turbo experience to help you I would try, but the first time with a turbo kit, your going to find it's not as easy as it seems. All Im saying is with a complete kit you know you have everything you need and if you have parts left over you know you did something wrong.

flastreetscene

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would suggest sticking with a complete kit if this is your first try. Maybe if you have a friend or someone with some turbo experience to help you I would try, but the first time with a turbo kit, your going to find it's not as easy as it seems. All Im saying is with a complete kit you know you have everything you need and if you have parts left over you know you did something wrong. </TD></TR></TABLE>

(lol, I like that last statement... )

So then which turbo kit would be the best to get me to mid 12s in an EG with an LS swap for the lowest price and the most reliability. (sorry for all the specs )

IEATLINT

the biggest problem is welding. if you can find someone that can weld you can make your own piping which is nice...you can do enough research to figure everything else out.

flastreetscene

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IEATLINT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can do enough research to figure everything else out.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok, where do I begin?

kungfujap

Well I haven't built my a turbo kit on my own but i can lend what help i can. I would probably try to get an exhaust manifold for my engine, figure out which turbo you want to go with, get a flange for it. Get the turbo and the intercooler so you can bolt them up and start putting the piping together while you get your waste gate and oil return lines and such. Get the big pieces first so you can piece the rest of the kit around it.

skellator_thoj

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what other basic parts do we need to complete the turbo kit??

b16ahybrid

build your own kit.
You can purchase only the parts you need, which will save you money. Plus you can get a turbo that will suit your needs. Mosts kits come with decently sized turbo's (with the exception of the greddy kit) that will support some decent hp, but you can always decide what you want out of the car and get a better turbo.
Do a lot of research, building your own kit isn't that hard, hell i did my own over 3 years ago with no previous experience.

flastreetscene

Thanks, that already is a lot of help, but I'm stuck on the very first step which is to figure out what type of turbo I need. My plan (like stated) is to hit mid 12s while still staying somewhat reliable. (daily driven) Thanks.

flastreetscene

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16ahybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">building your own kit isn't that hard, hell i did my own over 3 years ago with no previous experience.
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That's assuring.

b16ahybrid

T3T40E .57 trim .63 A/R
Garrett. I Love mine. but thats just my oppinion.
http://www.cheapturbo.com will help you greatly

nema741

Pick up something with a T3 flange on it is your best bet. You can use a Saab garret T3 turbo, a TD05(out of a talon)... Those are just a few turbos' that you will find with most custom kits.

Ricey McRicerton

Oh yeah...and if you do decide to build your own turbo kit...feel free to PM me with any ?s you have *was turbo on D series, so may not know eveything , but will try to help*

flastreetscene

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oh yeah...and if you do decide to build your own turbo kit...feel free to PM me with any ?s you have *was turbo on D series, so may not know eveything , but will try to help*</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks a lot.

flastreetscene

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16ahybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">T3T40E .57 trim .63 A/R
Garrett. I Love mine. but thats just my oppinion.
http://www.cheapturbo.com will help you greatly</TD></TR></TABLE>

Is this the one you are talking about?

http://store.yahoo.com/cheaptu....html

b16ahybrid

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fried_EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Is this the one you are talking about?

http://store.yahoo.com/cheaptu....html </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes sir.
Good prices and great service.

flastreetscene

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16ahybrid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yes sir.
Good prices and great service.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok, thanks.

Another question; What makes the fabricated turbo kit much cheaper than the complete kits? Where is the majority of the money saved? Thanks.

1 point 6

Ah once again my trusty shopping list comes in handy

<FONT SIZE="4"><FONT COLOR="darkblue">SHOPPING LIST:</FONT> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="purple">From Local Performance Shop</FONT>
Three 2.23 inch U-bend steel $17
One 2.5 inch 90 degree aluminized bend - $25
One down pipe flange $10
One down pipe gasket $8
One 1G blow off valve flange $10 (1st gen eclipse)
One 1G blow off valve gasket $4 (1st gen eclipse)
One 6mm gasket $3
One turbo-to-oxygen sensor housing gasket $5
One oil return line new $55 used $10 (may have to widen the opening)
One oil return gasket $1
One silicone 2.25 inch to 2 inch reducer hose $18
One foot of rubber 2.25 inch hose - $12 per foot
Nine 2.75 inch heavy duty clamps $2 each
One 3 inch heavy duty clamp - $2.50
One 1G blow off valve $90 new $5-$40 used (1st gen eclipse)
One 2G T25 Turbo - $25-$150 (2nd gen eclipse)
One 1G oxygen sensor housing $10-$20 (1st gen eclipse)
One 2G stock intercooler core - $10-$50 (2nd gen eclipse)

<FONT COLOR="purple">From Local Salvage Yard</FONT>
One HF CRX manifold $20 to $50

<FONT COLOR="purple">Local Auto Parts Store (pep boys/autozone)</FONT>
One 60 inch long .25 hard line $1.69
One 1/8 inch NPT male to male fitting $1.49
One 1/8 inch NPT femal "T" fitting $2.19
One 1/8 inch male to 1/4 inch pipe female fitting $1.49
One 1/2 inch ID rubber hose, 1 foot $1.99
One can of high temp engine paint $3.99
Four quarts of oil $9.16
One oil filter $4.15

They did mention the adapter plate in the article, but not on the list, so here is the specs on that, word for word from the article.

Using the HF manifold as a guide, center it on a piece of .75 x 4 x 5 inche flat steel plate that is roughly big enough to mate the header and turbo. Mark and center punch the four holes on the manifold. Drill and tap with a 10mm x 1.25mm tap .5 inch deep for all four holes, but do NOT go all the way through. If you prefer you can skip this process and weld the plate directly to the manifold. But i know some people dont have welders. Here is a pic of the adapter plate


<FONT COLOR="purple">Tools Needed</FONT>
Basic mechanics tools - Sockets, wrenches, etc.
Grinder
Tape measure
Center hole punch
Die Grinder
Drill pess/hand drill
Drill bits
2 inch hole saw
Welder

The least we spent was $225 & the most was about $560



Check out http://www.homemadeturbo.com, they have some good articles and good resources if your going to tackle this by yourself.

flastreetscene

Wow it's looking really appealing. How is it realibility wise though?

1 point 6

Not any less reliable than any other kit. Just got to get good use parts. The hardest part is the turbo if its bad your going to spend a couple hundred rebuilding it. So buy one thats not from like 1983.

Same goes with the other used parts if you get stuff off a G1 or G2 eclipse chances are its not going to be horrid unless the owner didnt take proper maintenance precautions.

SloCivicHMM

I was thinking of piecing together a turbo but I have heard you cannot keep your AC...this true??

And Yah I know some of you will say ditch the AC...but I live in AZ so I need it...

flastreetscene

What years does the generation 1 and 2 Eclipses cover, and which model exactly? Thanks.

JDM_SiR_II_EG

people are always just copying other turbo setups and suggesting them to people that dont know anything. how bout before you go with any turbo you post what motor its going on, where you want to make power and how much power you want to make. Dont just guess in the dark that this kid needs a t3/to4e he could want a stage 5 T66 for all you know depending on the power hes looking to get, or just a t25 to get him started.

So, tell me what you want to do with your car, tell me what motor you have and how much you are willing to spend, a cheap turbo motor is not a good turbo motor at all.

1 point 6

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fried_EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What years does the generation 1 and 2 Eclipses cover, and which model exactly? Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I hear that, im in Az also. You can keep your AC but that requires the movement of somethings. With a pretty simple AC bracket you could do this.

Also about the Eclipse generations
90-94 1st Gen
95-01?? 2nd Gen, either 00 or 01 i forget.

Inigo Montoya

from what i have heard using the hf manifold means you can't have AC, this is the only reason I have not gotten all the pieces for my setup. In alabama we need AC too.