civictildeath

maybe you didnt understand pegged at rich no change no fluxuating no steady stream i start car it is pegged at rich and stays there got it?? if not get it and get on cause im real sick of your **** luser and dohc

Luserkid

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civictildeath &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe you didnt understand pegged at rich no change no fluxuating no steady stream i start car it is pegged at rich and stays there got it?? if not get it and get on cause im real sick of your **** luser and dohc</TD></TR></TABLE>


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Now when is a 02 sensor in working order? </TD></TR></TABLE>

civictildeath

enlighten me cause apparently i am stupid so please tell me cause i apparently aint got a clue

civictildeath

when is a 02 sensor in working order? [/QUOTE]

so when is it??

yaya

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Yup.... when will you grow cells and stop asking stupid questions. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i think you just dont want to listen to luserkid. everything he has mentioned is pretty much what you need to hear. but you just wanna slap on some voltage reducers until the stupid lightshow gauge reads a normal af reading.

Luserkid

The o2 sensor will not work at straight start up. It has to run for a while (or warm up with the motor) That is why your car revs to 1500 to 2k on start up to warm itself up. If its cold the o2 sensor will stay at rich until the car warms up and the o2 sensor is working right to send you the correct feed.

civictildeath

well the o2 sensors are new so they work

civictildeath

drive it for 5 or 6 hours straight and still no change

Luserkid

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jim Truett &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

1. Improper installation.

2. eBay "Mugen" or "Skunk2" ECU Chip.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How did you wire up the A/F because i believe that is your problem.

civictildeath

it was installed at local well known shop it is done right

yaya

YOU ARE RUNNING RICH


btw not to jack this thread, but what is the propper html code to make the text bigger. i cant seem to get it &lt;text size = 6&gt; &lt;/size&gt; ?

Jim Truett

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The o2 sensor will not work at straight start up. It has to run for a while (or warm up with the motor) That is why your car revs to 1500 to 2k on start up to warm itself up. If its cold the o2 sensor will stay at rich until the car warms up and the o2 sensor is working right to send you the correct feed. </TD></TR></TABLE>

True. It needs to be at 600+ degrees. Also if you tapped the power from an improper location, you will always have incorrect readings. Get your power for the o2 gauge from the +12 and ground wires at the ECU connectors. If you are on another circuit, and there is a .5 volt difference from the ECU voltage (ground potential difference) your readings will be ****.

Spoon feed over.

civictildeath

how do i fix it then

Luserkid

Did it ever work? How long did it work? Looks like you got ripped. Either that or your O2 sensor is ****. Pick which you think it is.

civictildeath

well i knew it ran a little rich but nowhere near what the gauge says. would timing cause this

Luserkid

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civictildeath &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i knew it ran a little rich but nowhere near what the gauge says. would timing cause this
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Start another thread about that, keep this thread about A/F gauges because its going good, dont kill it because you think you know your problems when you dont.

civictildeath

once again enlighten me im hear to listen cause im apparently stupid

Luserkid

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civictildeath &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">once again enlighten me im hear to listen cause im apparently stupid</TD></TR></TABLE>

What do you want to hear? Why your running rich? I dont know i dont know **** about your car, just like you.

civictildeath

eat it dont bother in my other thread

nocturnaldragon

My a/f guage allways runs rich, Why? cause my car allways runs rich. Maybe your guage is working fine and your car is running rich. So why not shut the hell up and fix the proplem and stop arguing with everyone. If you know as much as you say you do why are you even asking?

civictildeath

never said i knew it all did i?? looking for help and got **** again dont know how to fix it so it dont run rich if i did i wouldnt have asked which is why i came back here in the first place

fishnfst

Take it to the extremely reputable shop you had it installed. Have them throw it on their dyno and hook up their wideband o2 then they can tell you exactly where you af ratio is. If you are running extremely rich you can burn out an o2 sensor in no time flat. So it doesn't matter if they are new or not. Hook up a multimeter to your o2 sensor and tell me what the readings tell you. Is t fluctuating is it not fluctuating. What car is it in what year and what model. Is it a 4 wire o2&gt; You need to give us more info if you want answers......

foz

All I know is that I opened this thread because of the FAQ, understanding how air/fuel ratios gauges work title, thinking cool here is something I can waste some time learning about, instead I get bitchin back and forth, problems that from my uneducated self can only guess is from the user/ installation... and knowing that Luserkid, who has IMHO gained respect from his knowledge, has been wasting his time trying to make this thread worthwhile, but yet I end my time at this thread thinking the kid who started this thread is a waste of time

igyloo

a/f meters that monitor the stock O2 are not accurate unless of course you have a wideband

civictildeath

1st) the sensor you are talking about is it the o2 sensor? (wanna be certain)
2nd) not sure but will check
3rd) obd2
4th) yes it was installed correctly had another mechanic check it and he told me about the voltage regulator
5th) ??