BKJJ77

Im trying to improve my em1s handling
when ever i make fast turns my car fishtails
its lowered on eibach springs with adustable stiffness coilovers
should i get a lower tie bar stronger sway bar
any help...thanks

Safety_Driver

Make your rear springs softer.
Remove your rear sway bar or install thinner bar.

BKJJ77

isnt stiffer better

jbpnoman

How about this - before you start worrying about suspension setups, camber, and other advanced setup items, what kind of tires are you using? If you're on stock size economy tires, fix that. You can have a million dollars in suspension, chassis stiffening, and all sorts of other fun handling toys, but if you're still running on cheap 185/60r14s, you'll still lose traction, uh, everywhere.

grumblemarc

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Adjustable stiffness? No such thing for springs.

You need softer springs in the rear, or harder springs in the front, to reduce oversteer. The higher the spring rate in the rear the more you will fishtail if the rate is higher than what you have in the front.

If you know nothing about spring rates/frequencies then you cannot even begin to think about swapping out your suspension.

BKJJ77

i have flaken tires... ok nevermind grumblemarc i go ask clubcivic

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

You can ask but you need to be able to answer the question about HOW you need your suspension improved. If you need it to stop fishtailing then you need to tell us what spring rates you have on front and rear.

Blacknight117

iTrader: (1)

Or you can take turns slower??

jbpnoman

Falken makes many kinds of tires. They're mostly ****.

Serious, guy. You need to spend a lot more time researching, and a lot less time begging for the answers. No one can help you if you don't even understand suspension and handling 101.

Strong arm bars, control arms, strut tower bars, fender reinforcement bars, sway bars, tie bars, struts, springs, tires. These are ALL things that effect your steering. No one expect you to actually know what all of them do, but if you don't have the slightest idea, you need to start reading.

When you say your car "fishtails", do you even know what fishtailing means? It means your car did something you didn't like, and you reacted wrong. What was that first thing the car does before you make it fishtail?

98civdx

What is already done to the car? We need to know what exaxtly the car has front/rear, down to the tire size, and what type of tire.

Is the car oversteering, or just sliding?

B serious

iTrader: (1)

Your EM1 oversteers?!!! What do you have done to it? EM1s have that way-too-big-for-a-coupe front sway bar. My EM1 under steered pretty bad thru turns on the track. I had a ITR rear bar and ground controls. Although, in the car's defense, I never spent much time on setup.

But almost..any car will "fish tail" on a very fast transition...like...say...a really abrupt lane change at higher speed.

What do you have done to your car? What TYPE and SIZE of tires (don't just say Falken)? Have you had it aligned? Your question is too vague to be answered.

98civdx

That is what I was thinking!

I have SI sway bars on mine, and I have to unhook the front bar to get any oversteer out of it.

beecee18

ES master kit

w/blackhands and blackface and bloody knuckles
then align

98civdx

The ES master kit isn't really worth the money, IMO.


I bought it, and all I used was the control arm bushings, and the trailing arm bushings. Everything else is just sitting beucase it's not worth the time to install.