delslow45

i'm trying to do an automatic to manual conversion on my 1995 Del Sol S
its the d15b7 with an automatic trans(obviously)
i'm trying to swap it out for the d16y8 trans(i believe it's out of a 96-99 civic ex)
i understand i need an ecu for a manual, i'm wondering if i need the d16y8 ecu, or if a manual d15b7 ecu will work
also need to know if the linkage from the ex will work fine
most people have been telling me i need the del sol linkage but the ex linkage appears to fit just fine
and i need to know if the ex clutch pedal will work or if i need a del sol pedal
also need to know specifically what other parts i need
i've ordered my clutch and flywheel already
need to know specifically what mount and bracket parts i will need

rick_rabies

you cant use an obd2 ecu in that car. just use the one you have. itl giv you a check engine light but it wont do anything. thumper64 can tell you how to modify your ecu to turn off the CEL.
get the pedal assembly from another car with a clutch pedal
mc and sc, www.chasebaysonline.com for clutchline
and of course the tranny.
and the shift linnkage and circiut hero shifter and extender and ****
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzqTF...layer_embedded

delslow45

i already have the tranny aand its a mechanical clutch, not hydraulic
so do i need the mc, sc, and clutchline still?

rick_rabies

iv never heard of using a cable tranny in an eg/delso/ or newer....try it

delslow45

yeah that's what i was thinking too but it's definitely the d16y8 trans and it's mechanical

94EG8

Post pics, all Y8 trannys are hydraulic, ALL of them. All civic transmissions since '92 are hydraulic for that matter.

92lxsleeper

you will also need a custom transmission mount, unless you plan on cutting the bracket off the car and welding the manual trans, bracket on. hasport carries the correct mount.

http://hasport.com/store/index.php/egamh.html

delslow45

turns out it was an L3 trans off of an old crx
the guy accidentally gave me the wrong one
and do i need the d16 starter or the d15 starter? or does it even matter?

z6hatchboy

^ he's 100% right, theyre all hydro from 92. op might just be missing the slave and is mistaking it for a mechanical. Didnt see if it was brought up but dont forget about wiring around the shift lock stuff. Theres something that has to be wired to make the car think its in park all the time i believe.

jdm.coupe3234

ur ex shift linkage from an ek wont work.. its going to be too short.. u can modify it and make it about 2 inches longer and it will fit or just get the del sol shift linkage.. u will need to visit hasport to get the right tranny mount unless u know how to make ur custom mount. if ur going to use that cable tranny innovative has the hydro to cable bracket i think... but probably just should find a hydro one.. and u will need the obvious stuff like flywheel, clutch, clutch pedel, clutch line

94EG8

It doesn't matter, it just matters that its for a '92 - '00 D-series manual transmission.

delslow45

so how exactly do i accomplish this mod?

94EG8

You have to cut the shift linkage and the stablizer bar in half and weld a piece in each. I don't have measurements on exactly how much longer it needs to be.

delslow45

sounds simple enough
anybody know exactly how much longer it needs to be?

ys1civicsi

Listen:

Before you keep letting everyone give you a run around, listen to me I have done this swap within the past 5 months into an auto EG hatch that I had.

You will need:

A hydro 5 speed trans either from an eg 92-95 or ek 96-00 Models do not matter, but ex/si are better

You ill also need the peddle assembly from a 5 speed EG I am sure any will work as Honda was pretty smart and simply makes everything compatible. You could just put on the clutch peddle to your auto peddle assembly, but your brake and clutch peddle will be very close together. Just get a manual EG peddle Assembly.

Next you need the master cylinder and all the hard lines that run to the slave cylinder. All of the mounting spots are there for this stuff it just needs to be put in the right spot.

Next you need either an auto to manual conversion mount as others have said hasport has them, but you best bet is to find one on ebay for an EG/DC as you an find them used.

Your stock axles will work from the automatic, yet the starter will not.

You need a clutch and a flywheel, and the shift linkage should not have to be cut and welded, as said about. The linkage from any SOHC EG should work without any problems.

Next there is wiring you mus o which I am not going to explain as you wil need to do this on your own. You need to wire in the neutral safety switch, only if you want to have to push in the clutch to start your car, if not then simply forget that step and it will start just like an automatic.

You will need to wire in the reverse lights from the trans and also do some wiring underneath the shifter console.

Now please go and search before you rip your car apart, so you actually have the knowledge to do this before attempting.

Google Auto to manual swap in an EG and it will come up,...... of you could simply check the FAQ thread at the top of the Thread Listings.

94EG8

Del Sol Shift linkages are unique, they're longer than Civics and Integras, see part numbers below for proof that they're different:

54201-SR2-A03 ROD, GEARSHIFT 001 1995 DEL SOL S
54301-SR2-A02 EXTENSION, CHANGE 001 1995 DEL SOL S

54201-SR3-A01 ROD, GEARSHIFT 001 1995 CIVIC DX
54301-SR3-A00 EXTENSION, CHANGE 001 1995 CIVIC DX

BryanM.

iTrader: (1)

If I were you I would get used Del Sol D-series linkage rods, shifter assembly and a new/used Innovative auto>manual transmission mount.

94EG8

That would be ideal, Del Sols are pretty rare in some areas though.

delslow45

pretty much. i gotta drive to the next state to get my linkage

itsnotfast

I just did an auto to manual yesterday, its pretty annoying. You will also need manual flywheel bolts they are longer than the auto bolts. You will also need clutch bolts. It took me about 6 hours by my self and it was my first time.

delslow45

trans
clutch
flywheel
linkage
custom mount
pedals
m&s cylinders
shifter
center console w/ shift boot
manual ecu
speed sensor

on the way:
starter
clutch & flywheel bolts
throttle cable
inspection plate

anything i'm still forgetting?

delslow45

also, i've heard a thing or two about having to swap out my intake manifold and throttle body for ones off of a manual
i can see how it might **** with idle control maybe n some other things, but 90% of the write ups i've seen didn't mention it
do i actually need to swap my IM and TB? or am i good with the ones off my automatic?

94EG8

You don't need to swap the Intake manifold and throttle body. The only thing swapping intake manifolds and throttlebodys applies to are straight auto to manual swaps retaining the stock D16Y8 on '96 - '00 EXs and '96 - '97 Del Sol Sis, as well as Swapping to anything other all D16Y7s and Automatic D16Y8s.

Matt93eg

delslow45

throttle cable and clutch & flywheel bolts - ordered
just need to get my starter & starter bolts(and eventually the inspection plate i guess)
one last thing, specifically what mount & bracket pieces will i need?
i have the hasport custom mount, and obviously both mounts and brackets from the automatic
do i need the brackets and other mount out of a manual?