Do 5th gen Si's have moonroofs or sunroofs?
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Re: Do 5th gen Si's have moonroofs or sunroofs?
no, he's saying that when a sunroof is closed, you can open the shade and see outside without having the sunroof actually open, because it's glass. with a moonroof, the only way you can see outside is if it is open.
edit: damnit i said it backwards
edit: damnit i said it backwards
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Re: Do 5th gen Si's have moonroofs or sunroofs?
k then imo its the same **** just for them to save a few bucks and charge you more for higher technology bull
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Re: Do 5th gen Si's have moonroofs or sunroofs?
"Sunroof" is the generic term used to describe an operable panel in a vehicle roof which can let in light and/or air. "Moonroof" is a term created by Ford in the 70s, yet is now used generically to describe glass panel inbuilt electric sunroofs.
All moonroofs are sunroofs, yet not all sunroofs are moonroofs "Sunroof" is the term originally used to describe a metal panel that would only allow light or air in when opened. A "moonroof," on the other hand, is a glass panel that can allow light in even when it is closed (provided, of course, you slide back that nifty fabric-covered panel to expose the glass).
True sunroofs, those made just of metal, appear to have gone the way of 8-tracks in automobiles, and these days, most "sunroofs" are really "moonroofs" -- panels of tempered glass, usually tinted, that tilt up to allow a flow of air, or slide back into the roof entirely, giving the car occupants a brief but tantalizing glimpse of life in a convertible.
All moonroofs are sunroofs, yet not all sunroofs are moonroofs "Sunroof" is the term originally used to describe a metal panel that would only allow light or air in when opened. A "moonroof," on the other hand, is a glass panel that can allow light in even when it is closed (provided, of course, you slide back that nifty fabric-covered panel to expose the glass).
True sunroofs, those made just of metal, appear to have gone the way of 8-tracks in automobiles, and these days, most "sunroofs" are really "moonroofs" -- panels of tempered glass, usually tinted, that tilt up to allow a flow of air, or slide back into the roof entirely, giving the car occupants a brief but tantalizing glimpse of life in a convertible.
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Yeah I always thought I had a moonroof. Theres a fabric panel that you can manually slide back and then light will go through the glass. I can also pop it up to enter a little air. Plus I can also pop it up and then retract it back all the way.
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Re: Do 5th gen Si's have moonroofs or sunroofs?
The 5th generation Civic EX coupe and sedan (not sure if LX sedans have them) and the Si hatchback have moonroofs.
jdm_ekcivic speaks the truth.
jdm_ekcivic speaks the truth.
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"An automotive sunroof is a fixed or operable (venting or sliding) opening in an automobile roof which allows light and/or fresh air to enter the passenger compartment. Sunroofs may be manually operated or motor driven, and are available in many shapes, sizes and styles. (see sunroof definitions below)
Sunroofs, by historical definition are opaque and slide open to allow sunshine and fresh air into the passenger compartment. Today, most factory sliding sunroof options feature a glass panel and are referred to as moonroofs, a term introduced in 1973 by John Atkinson, a marketing manager at Ford for the Lincoln Continental Mark IV. For the first year, Ford sent out its Mark IVs to American Sunroof Company for offline installation.
Variations of both the sunroof and moonroof have become the norm in both factory installed and aftermarket offerings, creating a wide range of features and choices.
Sunroof systems may be manual or electric, while most moonroof systems are electric/electronic. Manual sunroofs may be lever actuated, as in venting type pop-ups, manual lever or crank operated for sliding systems. Electric roof systems are usually cable driven by a motor and feature some form of sliding opening. Most moonroof systems today are electric and have either a combination pop-up/inbuilt or a pop-up/spoiler configuration (see Roof System types below)
Sunroof Types
Roof systems are available in many shapes, sizes and styles, and are known by many names. The generally accepted sunroof/moonroof industry terms are as follows:
Pop-up sunroofs are simply a manually operated, tilting panel. These panels are usually removable, and like T-roofs, must be stored when removed. The tilting action provides a vent in the roof, or a full opening when the panel is removed. Pop-ups can be installed in most vehicles, and are relatively inexpensive. Familiar examples include metal panels in Porsche 944, early Mazda RX-7 and many glass panel factory and aftermarket installations.
Spoiler sunroofs (tilt-&-slides) combine the features of a pop-up with those of a sliding roof system. They tilt to vent and slide open above the roof, requiring little headroom or roof length. Spoilers typically do not provide as large an opening as other roof systems, but offer the convenience of a self-storing panel. Most spoiler roofs are electric, with optional features like integrated sun shades and express open/close. Spoilers are ideal for short roof vehicles where other types of sliders can't be installed. Familiar examples include Honda CRX, Saturn SC and Mazda RX-8.
Inbuilt sunroof systems have a panel which slides between the metal roof and interior headliner, requiring some loss of headroom and provide a full opening in the roof. All inbuilts slide inside the roof, while some also include a rear venting feature (see pop-up), and/or express open/close functions. Inbuilts don't fit every vehicle as the panel must slide and store completely within the vehicle roof. Historically, inbuilts were a metal sunroof panel painted to match the vehicle roof, but are now most are glass panel systems with sliding sunshades (typically referred to as moonroofs).
Folding sunroofs (often called rag-tops or cabrio coach) are a European tradition. They offer the convenience of a sunroof, with an opening more like a convertible. The panel is made of fabric (often vinyl), which folds back as it slides open. After a long absence in European and North American Markets, folding sunroofs have experienced a resurgence with several new factory installed options. Aftermarket versions were once only manual, but are now also available in powered versions. Familiar examples include the original VW Beetle, Renault Twingo and Jeep Liberty.
Top-mount sliding sunroofs (rail mount topslider) have been a popular factory option in Europe for many years. A large glass panel slides open in tracks on top of the roof, with no loss of headroom. Most feature an integral wind deflector to eliminate wind noise. Examples include Donmar's original Skyroof topslider (aftermarket system), the London Taxi and Renault 5 cars.
Panoramic roof systems are a new type of large or multi-panel moonroof which offer openings above both the front and rear seats and may be operable or fixed glass panels. Large operable openings are often accomplished with topslider (tracks in the top of the roof) or spoiler type mechanisms. Familiar examples include BMW Mini, Scion tC, Pontiac G6, Ford Flex, and Cadillac SRX.
Removable roof panels (T-tops or targa roofs) open a vehicle roof to the side windows, providing a wider opening than other roof systems. T-roofs have two removable panels and leave a T-shaped structural brace in the roof center. Targa roofs include only one (opaque or transparent) panel and leave no cross brace. Aftermarket kits are no longer made, but several companies sell replacement and remanufactured panels, parts and accessories. Familiar examples include Pontiac Firebird, Chevrolet Corvette and Porsche 914."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonroof
"An automotive sunroof is a fixed or operable (venting or sliding) opening in an automobile roof which allows light and/or fresh air to enter the passenger compartment. Sunroofs may be manually operated or motor driven, and are available in many shapes, sizes and styles. (see sunroof definitions below)
Sunroofs, by historical definition are opaque and slide open to allow sunshine and fresh air into the passenger compartment. Today, most factory sliding sunroof options feature a glass panel and are referred to as moonroofs, a term introduced in 1973 by John Atkinson, a marketing manager at Ford for the Lincoln Continental Mark IV. For the first year, Ford sent out its Mark IVs to American Sunroof Company for offline installation.
Variations of both the sunroof and moonroof have become the norm in both factory installed and aftermarket offerings, creating a wide range of features and choices.
Sunroof systems may be manual or electric, while most moonroof systems are electric/electronic. Manual sunroofs may be lever actuated, as in venting type pop-ups, manual lever or crank operated for sliding systems. Electric roof systems are usually cable driven by a motor and feature some form of sliding opening. Most moonroof systems today are electric and have either a combination pop-up/inbuilt or a pop-up/spoiler configuration (see Roof System types below)
Sunroof Types
Roof systems are available in many shapes, sizes and styles, and are known by many names. The generally accepted sunroof/moonroof industry terms are as follows:
Pop-up sunroofs are simply a manually operated, tilting panel. These panels are usually removable, and like T-roofs, must be stored when removed. The tilting action provides a vent in the roof, or a full opening when the panel is removed. Pop-ups can be installed in most vehicles, and are relatively inexpensive. Familiar examples include metal panels in Porsche 944, early Mazda RX-7 and many glass panel factory and aftermarket installations.
Spoiler sunroofs (tilt-&-slides) combine the features of a pop-up with those of a sliding roof system. They tilt to vent and slide open above the roof, requiring little headroom or roof length. Spoilers typically do not provide as large an opening as other roof systems, but offer the convenience of a self-storing panel. Most spoiler roofs are electric, with optional features like integrated sun shades and express open/close. Spoilers are ideal for short roof vehicles where other types of sliders can't be installed. Familiar examples include Honda CRX, Saturn SC and Mazda RX-8.
Inbuilt sunroof systems have a panel which slides between the metal roof and interior headliner, requiring some loss of headroom and provide a full opening in the roof. All inbuilts slide inside the roof, while some also include a rear venting feature (see pop-up), and/or express open/close functions. Inbuilts don't fit every vehicle as the panel must slide and store completely within the vehicle roof. Historically, inbuilts were a metal sunroof panel painted to match the vehicle roof, but are now most are glass panel systems with sliding sunshades (typically referred to as moonroofs).
Folding sunroofs (often called rag-tops or cabrio coach) are a European tradition. They offer the convenience of a sunroof, with an opening more like a convertible. The panel is made of fabric (often vinyl), which folds back as it slides open. After a long absence in European and North American Markets, folding sunroofs have experienced a resurgence with several new factory installed options. Aftermarket versions were once only manual, but are now also available in powered versions. Familiar examples include the original VW Beetle, Renault Twingo and Jeep Liberty.
Top-mount sliding sunroofs (rail mount topslider) have been a popular factory option in Europe for many years. A large glass panel slides open in tracks on top of the roof, with no loss of headroom. Most feature an integral wind deflector to eliminate wind noise. Examples include Donmar's original Skyroof topslider (aftermarket system), the London Taxi and Renault 5 cars.
Panoramic roof systems are a new type of large or multi-panel moonroof which offer openings above both the front and rear seats and may be operable or fixed glass panels. Large operable openings are often accomplished with topslider (tracks in the top of the roof) or spoiler type mechanisms. Familiar examples include BMW Mini, Scion tC, Pontiac G6, Ford Flex, and Cadillac SRX.
Removable roof panels (T-tops or targa roofs) open a vehicle roof to the side windows, providing a wider opening than other roof systems. T-roofs have two removable panels and leave a T-shaped structural brace in the roof center. Targa roofs include only one (opaque or transparent) panel and leave no cross brace. Aftermarket kits are no longer made, but several companies sell replacement and remanufactured panels, parts and accessories. Familiar examples include Pontiac Firebird, Chevrolet Corvette and Porsche 914."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonroof
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Re: Do 5th gen Si's have moonroofs or sunroofs?
If it means anything to anyone Honda has always refered to it as a moonroof in their promotional material and the owners manual.
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Re: Do 5th gen Si's have moonroofs or sunroofs?
It's all marketing. Manufacturers call them whatever they feel like at the time. I've seen all different types called both names interchangeably, and I've seen the same style roof called two different names by two different manufacturers.
My 00 EX said moonroof on the window sticker. My former 96 Accord EXL said sunroof. They were the same style roof.
tl;dr: doesn't really matter.
My 00 EX said moonroof on the window sticker. My former 96 Accord EXL said sunroof. They were the same style roof.
tl;dr: doesn't really matter.
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