h-duced

I just got done puting on skunk2 pro S coilovers on my 97 coupe with Function 7 control arms and a ASR sub tiebar and Asr sway bar. I take the car out after all done go around a corner pretty wide turn about 30 and the car dam near spun out on me. I felt like I was driving a rwd car for a min. Is this right or are there some adjustments that have to be done that I should know about. The car sits right now with a 2 1/2" drop same drop all the way around.

blkcivic310

****bump *****to get this guy some help

Vindicator9000

I've heard the ASR makes them a bit tail happy, but it sounds like you've got something crazy going on.

You still have your front sway, right? Do you know what your alignment specs are? If you don't have a front swaybar, I could see the ASR making a Civic a bit... unbalanced.

turnsignalandy

do some ****ing research next time you throw a grand into your car. . . .
first off what model trim is your car? If its a dx or lower you probably dont have a front swaybar so when you put a massive rear swaybar on it its gonna be terribly unbalanced. Even if its a ex model trim youre front swaybar is 22mm which is the same as the ASR rear one. Still out of balance. Keep in mind that Type R's that run swaybars that big on the rear end have 26mm swaybars up front.

Then once you add some stiff *** coilovers to the mix you are just destined to FAIL cause you probably cant drive worth ****.

RCurioso88

good advice but bad attitude

h-duced

Wow guy thanks for the advice. lol. My car is a EX. First off I didnt throw a grand into my car so before you start assumeing sh*t like how much money I dropped on my car YOU do some reserch and ask me how much I spent before being a d*ck about it, wasnt a G. Someone as smart sounding as you should know that my setup cost more than that so Im gonna keep in mind that you dont know jack ****. Got the coilovers for 350 off a buddy and King Motorsports hooked it up with a good guy price on the LCA's and swaybar combo if you really must know.

kzelisko

A 22mm rear sway bar is what Integra type R's come with, and they have a slightly larger front sway bar and more weight to deal with. The asr sway bar is 24mm or larger from what i can tell, which can very severely upset the balance of a Civic, especially if you still have the stock ex sway bar up front which is a 21 or 22 mm if i recall correctly. To get that combination to handle well you will probably have to very carefully adjust your camber, toe and ride height settings, though I do not know enough about suspension set up to even be able to suggest a place to start.

flipkc

lift off throttle oversteer?

get your suspension finished before you bomb corners.

xjosfx

iTrader: (1)

yea sounds like you might need to work on cornering. or better tires/ wheels

i had a 97 ex coupe
D2 Coils, stiffest setting
asr brace/ suspension techniques 19mm arb
blox lca's
beaks lower tie bar

handled like a CHAMP! i remember feeling NO roll whatsoever merging in between cars doing 80 on the freeway. and corners were a breeze. of course i had 15x7 slips, on 205/50 dunlop direzza digi type tires.

fungus mungus

Are the shocks in your coilovers adjustable? You might try stiffening up the fronts and softening up the backs to help out. But it could very well be your rear sway bar is way too big for your setup.

fm

h-duced

lift off throttle oversteer.. what do you mean by that? Also I wasnt bombing corners like you think I was going alot slower around this corner than I usually would. Before I was rocking tokiko blues with progress H-swap springs and it handled alot better in the turns. I guess what im saying this is my first time doing a actual swaybar. Im not too sure if I did the end links correctly. I serched on ASR's website and the just tell you how to bolt up a stock swaybar to their tiebar. Nothing I found explaining how to do their swaybar with their endlinks. Sounds like a easy fix tho all I need is a front swaybar its sounding like. How many mm's do you you guys think? And remember the stock ex on is on there right now. Also I do have a camber kit already on the car, made by wicked tunning. Wheel setup as of right now are Kumo's (the better ones I forget which ones) mounted on GSR Blades. And the shocks are non adjustable

420eg95

I don't want to sound like a *** hole, but it sounds like you can't drive. BTW you got the skunk 2 pro S cheaper than me. But I run 15in rota slipstreams, kumo 205/50R15, skunk2 pro S also, megan front rear and lower strut braces, 00 GSR front spindles/clipers/brembo slotted rotors, rotex pads, all of which was recomended to me by a HPDE instructor. which is simmiler to yours, only its on a 95 ex coupe.

to fix your problem you need to read up on the suspension thread, make sure you have an all wheel alignment, like the other guy said good rims/tires(make sure balanced also) and try again or go to www.nasaracing.net/ and try to sign up for some HPDE

h-duced

Roger

TunerN00b

The issue is probably the installation of height adjustable suspension.

Change in ride height, means the toe is off. trying to drive the car with unknown toe is asking to lose control.

Get an alignment, get the toe set correctly, car won't be "wanting to spin out" any more.

h-duced

Thanks man

Vindicator9000

That's kinda what I was thinking as well.

forcefedferio

I was just going to say that ^^^

But then again, who am I to point out someone's "bad attitude"?

turnsignalandy

even with proper alignment car will still be off balance. 13 year-old 22mm swaybar and bushings up front and NEW 24mm swaybar and bushings in rear. . . a lot of difference in how stiffness, plus weight difference in between front and rear. . . not good.

do i even wanna know what tires you are running?

98civdx

skunk 2 pro s arent adjuastable, to my knowledge.

what kind of tires do you have? size? sway bars can cause your tires to slip there for making it tail happy.

The Lobster

this...

your car should handle great after a good alignment...

and you need to learn to drive with a bigger rear sway...


DX Hatch here.
d2 coilovers
all the stiffening bars
asr 22mm
no front sway

handles amazing with over steer but again learn to drive.

Vindicator9000

Yeah, that could be what's going on here.

Everything I've heard says that an ASR kit *SHOULD* knock a Civic out of balance a bit... that's the point. A Civic is inherently dialed in from the factory with a bunch of understeer, and the ASR kit takes care of that.

I think OP needs to decide how much oversteer he wants to keep, and then either upgrade the front sway, downgrade the rear sway, or sell me his ASR kit lol.

turnsignalandy

the screen name suggests he is also H swapped, which further ****s with front suspension geometry and not in a good way.

like i said op. research

nextproject97

Ditto same set up here with a 24mm asr bar and I friggin love the way it handles !

h-duced

ok Im not out here to build a Honda challenge racecar you guys are going way overboard making it sound like Im just some chump that went out and bought whatever. I dont care about auto Xing nor drag racing. What im looking for is a all around properly functioning car to have fun with. "I dont even wanna know what tires he's runing!" WTF is that about? Really? Heres a pic of my car/ setup maybe you will understand a little better where im coming from and see that Im just not some joe who decided to throw a bunch of **** together The tires that I have are just temp btw


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h-duced

people like you crack me up! OMG! He's got a H-series! He cant turn! Too much weight! How much do you honestly think that motor weighs? 1000 lbs more than a B-series? No. The H with trans weighs 35lbs more than a B-series.