Purfect

Okay so i have a 1994 Honda Civic Cx Hatchback with the 95 D16z6 Motor
I was wondering what could i do to increase my horsepower. My friends seem to think the car is junk but after i take them for a cruise they say it has alot of power.. but i feel if my tiny car was pushing more than the 120hp.. I wana push around 300hp if possible.. any suggestions?

grumblemarc

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Turbo and a built top and bottom end. Nothing else.

Purfect

That would get me at around 300 hp?
the Turbo alone would get me around 200 i thought? But im trying to steer clear of turbo if necessary

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

Then you can forget it. There is NO WAY to get 300 horsepower out of that engine without a built engine and a turbocharger.

apexi_rsx

no way to steer clear of any Force induction with a d series block... ive only seen all motor h22's built to the max pushing 350. if u wanna do it all motor u need a big block swap... the d series on stock block can make near 200 with boost. as marc said u have to build the bottom end and turbo to reach 300hp... an all motor d series built to the max will only make 160-170hp... by the time u spent all your pennies to do that u could have done a h22 swap or b18c5 and have 200 hp

Purfect

Can you give me a ballpark on part prices?

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

Nope. You could spend a few hundred in junk parts for the turbo setup (not counting engine management) to a few grand or even 5 figures. The engine building is the same for internals.

Start researching.

Purfect

Hmm..
Alright ill start my research

grumblemarc

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I guess I'm wondering where you pulled this magic 300hp number from?

doctorake

Turbo only. or a K swap all motor.

tollickj

for all the right parts... it could cost around $1,500 depending on where you buy the parts from or from hook ups. I'm building my d16z6 and a LSV motor and for comparison my d16z6 is my cheaper build because I'm building my LSV from scrap. but if your budget is a thing for you; you could prob get a whole LS motor/tranny for 700 bucks(at least you can here in FL). Get a GSR or B16 head ($350-$500) to make it LSV for a quick 180hp.

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

He didn't ask about a swap. He wanted to make his D-series go faster.

tollickj

yeah and he also asked the prices on everything. so i gave him a idea.

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

He also said something about 300 hp and none of your suggestions get him that either.

strategy400

A supercharger would also invoke a very mature feeling while driving.

Don't forget a good tune (mandatory).

tollickj

whatever mr. honda tech master. i just gave him an idea on how much it will cost to fully build a z6 top/bottom end. Usually when they see its that much for a D series then from experience from other people and seeing it in other posts on this site and d-series.org they always then ask about just doing a swap.

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

And what about a built D-series is going to get him any where NEAR 300 horsepower? He won't even come close to 200. Your suggestions don't meet the OPs requirements.

And you keep talking this swap nonsense. Which swap get's him 300hp? Without turbo? Noticed I asked him why he was set on 300hp?

When he comes to the realization that he's pipe dreaming and asks for realistic outcomes then I would recommend a swap or boost but NEVER an N/A D-series. That's just a waste of money. For what you spend on getting the max power of of a D you can swap and boost your car.

doctorake

This thread just like every other one about getting more HP out of my D series with bolt-ons cause I am scared of turbos is useless.

dirty19

iTrader: (1)

Why does the OP want or need 300hp anyway?

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

Waiting for that answer.

Julio@Bisimoto

Don't let these guys intimidate you to much. The D16 powerplant does have potential even naturally aspirated, but a much more realistic horse power goal would be 150-160 whp for a street car. Got to consider the factory engine produce around 90 hp at the wheels from the factory.

What is your budget for your project? This is always the first step to figuring out what is in your means for your build to help choose a game plan for your build.

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

Telling the truth is intimidation?

So pretty much this salesman is telling you the same thing. You won't get 300hp or even 200hp out of your D-series.

doctorake

lol

S2BumpsticksGSR

D series= weak series. Why bother- do none of these kids get it?? Apparently not--

v8eatrr

ok..... go turbo
stock d16 blocks can handle around 230whp and about 200ft-lbs of tq
if you throw some eagle rods/vitara pistons the motor can handle 400whp without cracking a sleeve
if you are gonna boost the stock motor buy a turbo kit off ebay that is the cxracing or godspeed brand
whole kit should be under 700 bucks

for under 200whp you dont need to upgrade injectors but you will need a tune and 200whp will almost max out the stock injectors duty cycle
get a chipped ecu for 100 bucks
pay 250 for a dyno tune with crome pro
you have 200whp for 1000 bucks or so

200whp in a d series is alot faster then you think
full b series swap weighs around 100 lbs more then most d series swaps


and its cheaper then doing a b swap and way way faster
you might get 70 ft-lbs more torque then a b swap and 60 more whp


my d15 mini me made good power check out the signature


ebay .50 turbo
trust fmic
trust intercooler piping
stock 240cc injectors
hks ssqv1 bov
tuned with crome pro



and if you dont no this bhp is way different then whp
when you see a b18c5 advertise 200hp on some engine importing website
take 30-40hp off that and thats how much whp itll have


unless it says whp most people advertise with bhp to make you think you have more power then you actaully have


and btw 300whp nless you are running some serious tires you wont even get traction on the highway
the b20b turbo setup you see in my sig had an lsd gsr tranny with 205/50/15 tires would light up the tires in 4th gear and would be chirping hard into 5th so 300 you dont need