EK Ryda

Hi guys, i recently bought a mint condition 2000 EK civic hatch and im on a budget so i was wondering what would be the better option, turbocharging my stock D16 (with only 96,000 miles), or buying a B16 swap. For the B16, would i need to buy a USDM spec in order to pass NYS inspection or would any B16 do, also what are some good websites or places that sell these motors. And for the Turbo D what are some good turbo kits for a lower price, because i've seen many advertisements for 1000$ and less turbo kits for the D Series and i didn't know whether they were good or not.

Thanks for the help.

rclark

D16 turbo, but I'm really biased (I have one). It depends on what you want, but I would recommend piecing together a turbo kit if you do one, as opposed to buying a kit. Couple things to think about are that it would be cheaper to piece together w/ good quality used parts, and most importantly:

Tuning is everything w/ a boosted motor.

rclark

oh and do a little research, searching is your friend; this place is a plethora of all sorts of information. I hope search works properly now...

EK Ryda

thats a good option but are those cheaper turbo kits any good or are they too good to be true, what are some known problems that come with them?

patriot

iTrader: (2)

Neither. You said it was mint right? Keep it that way. It may not be a rare car but most have been driven into the ground. If it's really that nice, give it a little massage, a nice tune-up, fix any oil leaks and other flaws it may have. Keep that 34+mpg

EK Ryda

I'm really into tuning and this is my first car so i want speed while the stock way is probably good in the long run i am a teenager who loves to wrench.

longshot

n/a b series son... gas milage, just as much horsepwer if not more, and alot less problems

EK Ryda

are there any good online shops that ship b16a motors to people, if so what are they?

EK Ryda

also if i get a b16 am i gonna have to get a USDM from the si, or can i get a JDM b16 to pass NYS inspection?

deucedeuceEK

if your broke already....don't boost...

T3KNiQe

**** the D-series (my baised opinion) you wont be satisfied even if it is turbo. The singal cams just dont have enough "ummphh" and 'top end' power is none existant. A simple B16 will make you so happy and pleased with the money spent. Do you have emissions up there?

EK Ryda

i think you just basically have to have a converter for emmissions, so would the jdm work, also which one would be cheaper the usdm b16, or the jdm one, what website has these motors for sale?

Uhlig

LS turbo is probably the best setup IMO. It's really not that much more than a DOCH Vtec swap either.

EK Ryda

ok if i went with a b18b from the LS would it bolt right up to the stock 5spd tranny or would i have to buy a motor tranny combo, also would it be a good idea to buy the engine with the factory ecu or just buy a hondata unit after.

sintype

get a B swap.

lluks_844

by any chance are you near 845?

redlinexd

d series turbo will eat a b16 swap. 96k miles on a d seems good enough for me.

Swapped94

hmotorsonline.com is a good site to look at if your interested in swapping a B series

andoxviii

iTrader: (1)

Bah, I couldn't disagree more.

A D16 that isn't in boost yet (low rpm, regular driving) will not use more gasoline than a B16 at the same revolution.

Just as much horsepower? Who are you kidding? A B16 is still only 1.6L. It is a tiny engine. Plain and simple. If you want power out of a 1.6L, you need boost or nitrous.

Turbo D > B16

A B16 will be more "reliable" in some senses though. Especially if the turbo D was not tuned or tuned from a generic basemap. With a turbo D, you neeeeeed to tune.

turbojdmhatch

gtfo b16s are gutless unless you boost them also...either way i would either say boost your d-series(i have one and walk all stock b series motors) i would say go with a 1.8L...and btw the forces induction and all motor forums are pretty helpful when looking for a setup...you will see a lot of responses from people who really dont know what they should be saying

97_coupe

to the OP, it all boils down to the end users preference(you). We all could tell you this and that but our likings might not be the same as yours. I had a boosted D16 and it was fun as hell, I sold it (I have no idea why) and then later on I finally got a coupe again and got a B16 swap with a GSR trans with a factory LSD from hmotorsonline. In my personal opinion, we all in the end just want more and more power and think that we will be happy with X amount of WHP and it just doenst cut it. When you say that you are seeing turbo kits for around $1000, are you looking on ebay? They work for some but for the majority of people it just ends up causing more problems than its worth and in the end just buy name brand stuff.

What kind of goals do you have now and what may you want down the road? I loved my D16-T but in my eyes I think the swap was worth it alone just with the transmission. I love the gearing with a B series and the power potential you have. Some say that they cant stand the lack of torque that a B16 has but thats something you will have to feel out for yourself. The worst is that you could later on boost it stock and have fun with it and then buy yourself an LS shortblock and build that and drop it in and that would give you the TQ that you would be looking for.

Another thing you could do is just buy an LS swap for fairly cheap and would give you more potential than your stock D16 and would be cheaper than a B16 swap and later on you could put a B16 head on the LS block.

Or what some might never say is you could also just keep your car stock and save your money

.dave

Go with a B series swap if you want to pass emissions in NY without having to swap injectors, ECU, etc. every year to get it to pass.

turbojdmhatch

mine passes fine but its not newer but with ur car u would need to have a person who would be able to pass you since you would have to swap to obd1 if you go turbo

EK Ryda

will a b18 bolt up to the stock tranny or will i have to buy the one that comes with the motor?

EK Ryda

i live right near plattsburgh near exit 41