89civicsiB18B

i was looking for an opinion on putting a d15b8 in my 92si hatch or should i go with the ls?

cxjon

thats a cx motor and no that is a bad idea

89civicsiB18B

i thought so....my dads friend owns a junkyaqrd and he got a 92 si with no engine....it was in the inside of the car and i think the car was theft recovery. i think ill now go with the B18B ls intgra motor....thank you for the input cxjon

Eyes Only

it is a good motor for a cheap boost project

cxjon

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ram SRT-10 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it is a good motor for a cheap boost project</TD></TR></TABLE> everything about that motor is restricting will show **** of gains boosted due to a 8 valve head


edit: if you want to make 50 to 70 dollars that the exhaust mani off. that mani is ideal fo diy turbo kits for d series motors

95strfytr

I have a 95 cx with the d15b8. I know that the head is the most restrictive part of the engine. I have done some mods to the engine and am going to see what I can get out of it. I eventually am going to get a d16z6 and am currently doing mods that are universal between the two engines.

Mods-
Apexi GT Spec header, Powercore cat, Apexi WS exhaust, Injen intake, MSD SCI ignition, wires, cap, Blaster2 coil, AEM fuel rail, regulator, filter, BBK fuel pump, etc.

So far, its as fast as an Accord(f22) stock. Any other suggestions

BauleyCivic

Restricting the CX is the transmission mainly and then the head. Z6 transmission FIRST then mini me and you will stomp Z6 powered hatch's.

RicanRacer253

I got a cx motor in my hatch right now, Man its slow, i drove to lancaster and couldnt even get through the mountains without holding traffic. Man i cant wait to swap my motor back. I only spent 65 bucks on gas from lakewood, Wa to Lancaster , CA. This motor is good if we are going to be paying for 3 dollar a gallon gas. Thats going to suck.

RTE117

Bad idea IMHO. Save for LS. I got love for D series, but damn the B8 is weak.

cxjon

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Restricting the CX is the transmission mainly and then the head. Z6 transmission FIRST then mini me and you will stomp Z6 powered hatch's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i cant take z6 with a b7 head swapped on with a good clutch and lx tranny

BauleyCivic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cxjon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i cant take z6 with a b7 head swapped on with a good clutch and lx tranny</TD></TR></TABLE>

I highly doubt that...have you run your car at the track yet?

cxjon

i have two eyes and saw it a few times from my drivers seat

BauleyCivic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cxjon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have two eyes and saw it a few times from my drivers seat</TD></TR></TABLE>

Okay, that means absolutely jack ****. Could be that the other guy doesn't know how to drive. I know Si hatchs (and this is a D16Z6 in a hatchback that weighs 200 lbs more than your CX) can pull off 15.8 bone stock with a good driver, so saying you beat one is saying a lot. A stock DX hatchback runs around 16.4-16.6, and with bolt ons could maybe reach a 16.2.

cxjon

it wasn't a si pal it was the coupe and let try 400 pounds more

trooper0641

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 89civicsiB18B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was looking for an opinion on putting a d15b8 in my 92si hatch or should i go with the ls? </TD></TR></TABLE>
a cx is a peice of sh*t, hard to climb hills and holds traffic. ESPECIALLY ON A SI omg that car is a cow w/ 70 hp. Even when my cx was stock it was still slow...imagine how slow it'll be...on a si! If your going to daily drive...and not go high on the rpms...a ls or a b20 would be nice. But if your going for speed and getting tickets then b-series vtecs are the way to go

ABK

I think mini me projects are waste of money. You can pick up a z6 with a tranny, ECU and everything else you need for $500. Mini me might cost you couple $$$ less if you get good deals, but you will have to put alot more wrench time into it. The swap will take you anywhere from 1-2 days, and prolly pull better too.

BauleyCivic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cxjon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it wasn't a si pal it was the coupe and let try 400 pounds more</TD></TR></TABLE>

More believable then. I assumed you were referring to a Z6 in a hatchback. My original statement was "Z6 transmission FIRST then mini me and you will stomp Z6 powered hatch's." And you replied with "I can take z6 with a b7 head swapped on with a good clutch and lx tranny." It sounded very much to me like you were referring to a Z6 powered hatchback. I apologize.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ABK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think mini me projects are waste of money. You can pick up a z6 with a tranny, ECU and everything else you need for $500. Mini me might cost you couple $$$ less if you get good deals, but you will have to put alot more wrench time into it. The swap will take you anywhere from 1-2 days, and prolly pull better too.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats one opinion...from my mini-me thread:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by My Mini Me Thread &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I spent about $550 total when all was said and done. I paid $200 for the head, and $85 for the ECU. Random stuff kept adding up after that. $550 is comparable to a full Z6 swap, but remember this included a new timing belt, water pump, head gasket, valve cover gasket, distributor cap and rotor, spark plugs and wires, etc</TD></TR></TABLE>

Plus, I have proven track results with a mini-me. With identical 60fts I was over a half second faster in the quarter mile, so its not a "waste of money" jackass

ABK

I don't think there was real control between those cars to prove such a big difference. But still if you think about it comes to about the same money and you have about the same power with less wrench time (I would try to avoid going inside the engine as hard as I can because **** happens). I mean it's my own opinion and I don't diss on mini me swap or nothing.

MikeNice

Defintly aim for the B7 bro or higher. With some little stuff you can hit mid to high 15's in a B7 or a Z6. Trust me I have done it with no internals and keeping it N/A.
The B8 is probably the crappiest motor Honda made next the Dual Point. And I would still rather have the Dual Point, It has at least 16 valves.

99blackcivicSi

dude the B8 is such a dog i just bought a CX to drive everyday and i am gonna put a A6 head on it and if that dosn't help i am gonna swap it don't even bother putting that motor in your car it is junk man

ABK

holly **** this is defently the worst motor swap for a 99 in history I'm sorry man but it's bad.

BauleyCivic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ABK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think there was real control between those cars to prove such a big difference.</TD></TR></TABLE>

WTF are you talking about? Same car, tires, mods (except for mini-me), track, time of day...

Here are the numbers from the slips...if you want me to scan them in for you I can.

195/50/15 Pirelli P700-Z on Integra LS wheels (D15B7):
60ft: 2.449
1/8: 10.892
MPH: 64.62
1/4: 16.961
MPH: 80.95

195/50/15 Pirelli P700-Z on Integra LS wheels (Mini-Me):
60ft: 2.400
1/8: 10.531
MPH: 68.00
1/4: 16.407
MPH: 84.08

And then my best run to date...same mods as above except with 20" tires on VX wheels and better driving:

175/50/13 Sumitomo HTR200 on Civic VX wheels (Mini-Me):
60ft: 2.260
1/8: 10.217
MPH: 67.67
1/4: 15.964
MPH: 85.88

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ABK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">(I would try to avoid going inside the engine as hard as I can because **** happens). I mean it's my own opinion and I don't diss on mini me swap or nothing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you dont go inside the engine, you won't ever learn anything. You cannot learn how to work on your car by reading honda-tech, you have to actually go out and do it.

743power

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Restricting the CX is the transmission mainly and then the head. Z6 transmission FIRST then mini me and you will stomp Z6 powered hatch's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what makes you say that?

cxjon

i took ex coupes in my stock 88 civic dx, there not fast at all

kingSfit

70hp yeaaaaaaaaa!