92EG8

Is it possible for the timing to be off? it starts and cranks over and sometimes acts like it fires but wont stay on i guess u can say. Using a VX Harness. The following are not hooked up V-tec pressure switch ,v-tec solenoid and o2 sensor

92EG8

Sorry was in a rush to post that let me make my problem more clearer.I just swapped in a running D15B from a(VX Hatch) motor into my 92 Civic LX SDN. I used the harness it came with (VX harness im guessing has a 1 wire o2 sensor but no v-tec wiring CX possibly?). Well I just finished my swap everything is connected. Fuel lines, radiator lines, etc. I have no loose hosing or anything. Only thing I do not have plugged in is V-TEC Solenoid...Pressure Switch and the O2 Sensor(because the harness has 1 Wire and I have a 4 wire O2 how can i solve this)?. Basically I tried starting my car with open headers....I tried with my stcok P06 computer the motor cranks and turns over and feels like it comes on for a second and off the next.So I was guessing maybe the ECU fuel maps are messed up. So threw in the P28 same thing again as the P06. There are no leaks...anywhere so everythingmust be connected. my car right now is sitting on two jacks pretty high off the ground. and i have just a little bit above the E. THE ONLy thing that was removed from the engine was the distributor. So I know the timing is off on that .but cam timing wasn't touch. Could a distributor timing cause the engine not to start at all?

92EG8

When i mean it fires the engine makes a popping sound not repeatedly but after every2-5 seconds in different orders(start up sound with open header)

JShull

First things first. Are you getting spark? What about fuel? Those two are really essential if you know what I mean. When you turn the key to the on position do you hear the fuel pump priming? If I am remembering right there is a valve on the fuel rail that you can press (like a tire valve?) to see if you have fuel pressure.

Pull a plug out of the motor and take a look at it. Sooty, wet with fuel, burnt looking? When was the last time a tune-up was done?

While the plug is out put it in it's wire and with it dark out turn the motor over. What color is the spark? Is there spark?

If there is spark what color is it? Orangy could mean that your coil is weak.

No spark? Check your ignition control module. (Manual for this). Check the cap and rotor for corrosion.

Sorry it's not that much, but mayber it's a start.

92EG8

Ok im almost postitive i hear my fuel priming .Spark unsure of! I will take out the spark plug see how it looks . Last time a tune-up was done is unknown I just bought the motor!.

JShull

Understandable.

92EG8

But like I said motor came off the car running. The only thing we removed and put back the distributor so I KNOW for sure the timing is off. But does the Distributor Timing make a engine NOT start? or No matter were the timing may be on the distributor it will start? Because if the distributor timing sometimes not allow a car to start thats my problem. 99% sure just trying to see what people have done

JShull

Yea, it can cause it not to start.

Also, check all the fuses. Even the ones under the hood. Might be a another thought.

JDM_d15b_eg8

i know that this probably isn't it but i recently got really pissed at my car and solved the problem, i have a d15b in my civic and ever since i put it in my 2 door from my 4 door it has been some what unreliable, it would do that start but die crap your talking about. well what happened was whenever you turn the key to battery or whatever you hear a humm for like 8 seconds or so and that is the fuel pump running to build up enough fuel pressure in the line, well anyways there is a relay (main fuel relay) that runs that and it was bad so the fuel pump would turn on once every like 30 tries (EXTREMELY ANNOYING) so i finally went to the junk yard and got one and put it in and it fires up everytime.

again probably not the issue but hey i hope it is cause then it would mean i helped fix it

jdeemseerx

your spark plug wires are in the wrong firing order on the dizzy cap..

92EG8

hmm i dunno im pretty sure i got them right

3
1 4
2 Thats how i got them so they must be right? Also im gonna go ahead and do some fuse checking and im gonna change the harness to a B7 Harness because 1 wire o2 sensor is rediculous!.

92EG8

So timing on the distributor side will cause a engine not too start?

92EG8

bump anyone else ?

92EG8

Ok well today I checked all fuses as everyone said to do . ALL had spark seemed in good condition. I smelled for gas had a weak scent of it . I tried cranking it after checking spark plugs and fire order (which is still correct). Nothing now it wont pop at all. SO SINCE MY FUEL GAUGE IS PRETTY MUCH READIN EMPTY. I sprayed WD-40 down Cylinder 1 with the spark plug off then I put some on the spark plug tip and put it in (WD-40 acts just like Carb Cleaner...Starter Fluid) Cranked the key boom it popped.. So I`m guess if I got Air,Spark Its missing fuel and my car is sitting unleveled (FRONT HIGH OF GROUND ,BACK ON FLOOR). Im guessing I reall am out of gas??? So im gonna fill up the tank with about two gallons and see what results I get.

92EG8

bump

JDM_d15b_eg8

hopefully its that simple, waiting to find out....

jdeemseerx

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You made this big long post and this whole time there is a possibility that your out of gas? wow

92EG8

That possibility is elminated...I put about two gallons in and nothing it popped here there but nothing... i tried changing the firing order....a little bit more pops here and there but of course it wasnt gonna start cuhz it was the wrong firing order....so whats causing it not to start?

92EG8

Anyone help further diagnosis this..Well The only things that I think is keeping it from starting is the Distributor (Timing since the distributor was removed and then reinstalled) or the CX/VX Harness the engine has going to my 92 Civic LX Chassis(maybe not all the pinout match? Anyone who knows about the (orignal)harness can that really affect my car from starting? I was thinking of putting my B7 harness and giving it a try

92EG8

Up need some help

92EG8

bump

Laosakademiks

iTrader: (1)

the distributor timing would not keep the car from starting, no matter if you retard or advance the timing. first ill see if you sparking by pulling out a spark plug along with the spark plug wire and grounding it to see if it sparks. if it doesnt, i would think its the ignitor or coil inside the distributor.

Laosakademiks

iTrader: (1)

also the firing order is 1,3,4,2
1 being top left
3 being top right
4 being bottom right
2 being bottom left

92EG8

Yeah firing order is right....and there is spark in every spark plug.. and spark plug wire

Laosakademiks

iTrader: (1)

did you say your fuel pump was turning on? when you put the key on the on position do you hear a noise, or do you see you check engine light come on then go away?..if not its fuel problem

and if its not a fuel problem, i would think theres a blown fuse somewhere