D15B over B16A?
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D15B over B16A?
Well people I have a d15B in my hatch and i'm loving it but if i spend a couple of thousands modifying it would i be able to rank with a B16A?
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Re: (NerveAgent)
How much power do you want to make?
If you are okay with no more then 220whp. I would go with a custom turbo setup on the D15B...
If you want to make more then that you would have to go with a motor that would be able to hold more, like a B18C, B18B/A or even the B16... But Dont waste your money on a B16 its still a torqueless 1.6L...
If you are okay with no more then 220whp. I would go with a custom turbo setup on the D15B...
If you want to make more then that you would have to go with a motor that would be able to hold more, like a B18C, B18B/A or even the B16... But Dont waste your money on a B16 its still a torqueless 1.6L...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PRcivicHB »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much power do you want to make?
If you are okay with no more then 220whp. I would go with a custom turbo setup on the D15B...
If you want to make more then that you would have to go with a motor that would be able to hold more, like a B18C, B18B/A or even the B16... But Dont waste your money on a B16 its still a torqueless 1.6L...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree with everything except the part of wasting money on a B16...if u turbo the motor u will have tons of torque, if u build it, or even stroke it N/A again u can create more torque. To be honest every Honda motor is a torque-less wonder when compared to the competition...
To the original poster what u should be considering is how much money u want to spend, how much power u want to make, and is it gonna be daily driven or a race motor/ car
If you are okay with no more then 220whp. I would go with a custom turbo setup on the D15B...
If you want to make more then that you would have to go with a motor that would be able to hold more, like a B18C, B18B/A or even the B16... But Dont waste your money on a B16 its still a torqueless 1.6L...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree with everything except the part of wasting money on a B16...if u turbo the motor u will have tons of torque, if u build it, or even stroke it N/A again u can create more torque. To be honest every Honda motor is a torque-less wonder when compared to the competition...
To the original poster what u should be considering is how much money u want to spend, how much power u want to make, and is it gonna be daily driven or a race motor/ car
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Re: D15B over B16A? (red5FWD)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by red5FWD »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if i spend a couple of thousands modifying it would i be able to rank with a B16A?
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Hypothetically speaking, yes. And better.
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Hypothetically speaking, yes. And better.
Welcome to H-T, by the way. Please read the FORUM RULES & GUIDELINES. Otherwise, your experience here may not be a very pleasant one.
Also, please learn to utilize the "SEARCH" function of the website, as you can find a lot of information previously dicussed in this forum (or other forums), and thus saving you the time and trouble (and sparing the rest of us) of another post about a topic that has been covered a thousand times in the past.
You may want to start with a SEARCH for information regarding turbo D-series.
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Re: D15B over B16A? (Screwtape:)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkoundrelUSA »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Boost it and it can def gain more power than a B16</TD></TR></TABLE>
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hey man..., spend like 1200 for homemade turbo.. with intercooler real time programing ecu verything else u need.. im gonna spend like 800 for mine but i already have an intercooler
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waste 1-2 grand on swaping your engine to a B18c or LS/Vtec...trying to get power out of a small non-vtec sohc engine is challenging w/o FI....just put the money into an engine swap then just build that engine
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is this the d15b vtec, from japan? that motor is quite a bit lighter than the b16 motor. ask yourself how long youre gonna keep your car, what would you like it to do? why spend thousands to get a d15 to perform with a b16 when you could ls/vtec a b18 a/b motor and beat one? if its a non vtec, do a mini me swap, and boost it. have fun getting rods for the d15. trust me, i have a built d16y8, forged and cryotreated. although very fast, i wish i wouldve started with a bseries. now im building an ls/vtec.
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hey... i am going to be running the 92-95 cx top part.. with a t3 .42 turbo at 6 psi.. the guy thats gonna help me build it said i should be running 13's no prob 220whp 2-3 hours of tuning time should be fine on 6 psi
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Re: (RotiEatter)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RotiEatter »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Turbo the D15! B16's suck!</TD></TR></TABLE>
how is that? if he turbos his D15 he'll make about as much power as a stock B16A. i had a D15 in my CX a while back and those things suck *** i cant imagine it being much better turbo. a B16 is alway hated on for some reason i cant seem to understand... people saying B18A/Bs are better than a B16 because it has 'more torque'...all 14ft/lbs, meanwhile its down 25hp.
i would suggest a B16A for reasons of price, if you have more get a B18C (SiR/GSR)
how is that? if he turbos his D15 he'll make about as much power as a stock B16A. i had a D15 in my CX a while back and those things suck *** i cant imagine it being much better turbo. a B16 is alway hated on for some reason i cant seem to understand... people saying B18A/Bs are better than a B16 because it has 'more torque'...all 14ft/lbs, meanwhile its down 25hp.
i would suggest a B16A for reasons of price, if you have more get a B18C (SiR/GSR)
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by negtegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
how is that? if he turbos his D15 he'll make about as much power as a stock B16A. i had a D15 in my CX a while back and those things suck *** i cant imagine it being much better turbo. a B16 is alway hated on for some reason i cant seem to understand... people saying B18A/Bs are better than a B16 because it has 'more torque'...all 14ft/lbs, meanwhile its down 25hp.
i would suggest a B16A for reasons of price, if you have more get a B18C (SiR/GSR)</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree 100%. The b16 is a great motor, and has alot of potential if it is built right. from my experience with sohc and dohc I will take a properly built n/a b16 over a turbo sohc any day.
how is that? if he turbos his D15 he'll make about as much power as a stock B16A. i had a D15 in my CX a while back and those things suck *** i cant imagine it being much better turbo. a B16 is alway hated on for some reason i cant seem to understand... people saying B18A/Bs are better than a B16 because it has 'more torque'...all 14ft/lbs, meanwhile its down 25hp.
i would suggest a B16A for reasons of price, if you have more get a B18C (SiR/GSR)</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree 100%. The b16 is a great motor, and has alot of potential if it is built right. from my experience with sohc and dohc I will take a properly built n/a b16 over a turbo sohc any day.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by negtegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
how is that? if he turbos his D15 he'll make about as much power as a stock B16A. i had a D15 in my CX a while back and those things suck *** i cant imagine it being much better turbo. a B16 is alway hated on for some reason i cant seem to understand... people saying B18A/Bs are better than a B16 because it has 'more torque'...all 14ft/lbs, meanwhile its down 25hp.
i would suggest a B16A for reasons of price, if you have more get a B18C (SiR/GSR)</TD></TR></TABLE>
your d15 cx is different than D15b..... D15b is great for boost... its a square motor... rod to stroke
how is that? if he turbos his D15 he'll make about as much power as a stock B16A. i had a D15 in my CX a while back and those things suck *** i cant imagine it being much better turbo. a B16 is alway hated on for some reason i cant seem to understand... people saying B18A/Bs are better than a B16 because it has 'more torque'...all 14ft/lbs, meanwhile its down 25hp.
i would suggest a B16A for reasons of price, if you have more get a B18C (SiR/GSR)</TD></TR></TABLE>
your d15 cx is different than D15b..... D15b is great for boost... its a square motor... rod to stroke
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Re: (bluebird)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bluebird »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your d15 cx is different than D15b..... D15b is great for boost... its a square motor... rod to stroke </TD></TR></TABLE>
reguardless a B16A has more potential than any D series.
reguardless a B16A has more potential than any D series.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by negtegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
if he turbos his D15 he'll make about as much power as a stock B16A. i had a D15 in my CX a while back and those things suck *** i cant imagine it being much better turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Noob. People all over this forum have turbo SOHCs putting out over 250whp- All for less than the cost of a stock B18C.
if he turbos his D15 he'll make about as much power as a stock B16A. i had a D15 in my CX a while back and those things suck *** i cant imagine it being much better turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Noob. People all over this forum have turbo SOHCs putting out over 250whp- All for less than the cost of a stock B18C.
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Re: (Screwtape:)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Screwtape: »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Noob. People all over this forum have turbo SOHCs putting out over 250whp- All for less than the cost of a stock B18C.</TD></TR></TABLE> noob...ha most thrown around word on the internet, xbox live or anything for that matter. anyway 250whp sure its attainable in a single slam if you take apart the motor and put it back together built, not by simply slapping a turbo kit on it
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Re: (negtegra)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by negtegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> noob...ha most thrown around word on the internet, xbox live or anything for that matter. anyway 250whp sure its attainable in a single slam if you take apart the motor and put it back together built, not by simply slapping a turbo kit on it </TD></TR></TABLE>
He didn't say anything about turbo-ing a stock motor.
He didn't say anything about turbo-ing a stock motor.
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Re: (Screwtape:)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by negtegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">reguardless a B16A has more potential than any D series.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Please you don't know what the word potential means. If you want to take the literal definition of the word, then NO ONE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD has taken a B16, or a D15 to it's "full potential."
Can a B16 make 300whp? Yes.
Can a D15B make 300whp? Yes. And for less money. Period.
Since you're a n00b on the website, I assume you've missed the countless threads regarding the Pros vs. Cons of Ds vs. Bs- With informational contributions from unbiased engine builders from the B and D series world alike.
And don't assume I'm biased toward SOHCs.
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Please you don't know what the word potential means. If you want to take the literal definition of the word, then NO ONE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD has taken a B16, or a D15 to it's "full potential."
Can a B16 make 300whp? Yes.
Can a D15B make 300whp? Yes. And for less money. Period.
Since you're a n00b on the website, I assume you've missed the countless threads regarding the Pros vs. Cons of Ds vs. Bs- With informational contributions from unbiased engine builders from the B and D series world alike.
And don't assume I'm biased toward SOHCs.
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Re: (Screwtape:)
Why does everyone hate the b16. Yeah you can make some hp out of the sohcs but not as much as b16. Exospeed racing in cali, are the sohc gurus and have been breaking records with them yeah but not as much as b18 or b16. Just let it go.
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Re: (BoOstedEM1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoOstedEM1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why does everyone hate the b16. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Some people are against the B16 because it's a lot less cost-effective than a turbo SOHC.
Some people are against the B16 because it's a lot less cost-effective than a turbo SOHC.