Cut Springs . . ?
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Cut Springs . . ?
I have seen an integra on this forum before and the owner said he cut his after market springs two coils to drop it a bit and said it worked fine . I have serious "rides-like-a-boat-itis" and was wondering if i should waste another 2-300 on springs or cut the fronts to match the rear. Yes i did a search btw.
They are tokico springs by the way. heres a pic:
They are tokico springs by the way. heres a pic:
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Re: Cut Springs . . ? (Happyman)
The spring rate goes up parabolically when you cut them. The car will handle horribly and unsafely.
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Re: Cut Springs . . ? (97civhatch)
k, thanks. i say 2-300 for coilovers like gc's or skunks.
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Re: Cut Springs . . ? (civicmandx94)
i rode on cut lowering springs they rode great but it was some shitty as springs i don't why it rode so good it was only a temperory thing until i could offored my suspention. and spend the money buy good **** your gona have to put up with the shitty fuckn ride if you don't spend your money wisely. don't get skunks they sucks go with ground controls there great and you can get what ever spring rates you want here is a great over view of non-full coil overs http://www.norcalcrx.org/tyson/coilover.html
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Re: Cut Springs . . ? (97civhatch)
I found this write-up on another board. Is it accurate?
Cutting springs to change ride height is a completely valid technique, not some "riceboy" wannabe poser thing - IF a number of things are kept in mind:
1) Not all spring types can be cut. If the spring is flat-ground, pigtailed, or otherwise located in the suspension by its shape, then you can't cut it.
2) The spring should force the suspension into full droop. If the spring rattles in its mount at full droop, it is too short and must be replaced.
3) Always use an abrasive cut saw or a hacksaw to cut springs NEVER EVER EVER EVER use a torch on springs! They are very carefully heat-treated, and the torch will ruin them.
4) Go slow! Small sections of coil removal can make big changes in ride
height. It is better to make 6 successive "too high" cuts than one big "too low" cut.
5) Take the car for a spin after every cut - not only will this reveal how you're doing on the ride quality and livability scale, it takes a little suspension cycling for the car to settle to its natural ride height - just dropping the jack and measuring will give a falsely high reading.
6) Be aware that cutting coils increases spring rate. This is to a certain extent) a good thing, as you want more rate to help keep the car from bottoming, but be aware that the ride quality will change towards the harsher side.
7) Bumpstops are not cosmetic! They are SPRINGS! They allow the OEM to use a fairly soft spring for ride, but stiffen the effective spring rate when the car rolls. Note that most OEM bumpstops these days are tapered (and so are progressive rate) You may have to shorten them somewhat, but under no circumstances should they be removed.
8) Err on the side of being conservative - being slammed in the weeds may look cool, but the real world is full of driveways, curbs, underground parking ramps, railway tracks, etc and the sound of your airdam or exhaust system scraping on the ground is not at all enjoyable. Note that Touring Cars et. al. run only on racetracks that are exceptionally smooth. Typically, a 1" drop is the maximum for real-world applications.
9) You ABSOLUTELY MUST get an alignment after any lowering. Lowering typically increases negative camber and toe. The camber won't hurt you, but excessive toe EATS TIRES, typically chewing the inside edge of the tire down to cord in a matter of weeks.
Cutting springs to change ride height is a completely valid technique, not some "riceboy" wannabe poser thing - IF a number of things are kept in mind:
1) Not all spring types can be cut. If the spring is flat-ground, pigtailed, or otherwise located in the suspension by its shape, then you can't cut it.
2) The spring should force the suspension into full droop. If the spring rattles in its mount at full droop, it is too short and must be replaced.
3) Always use an abrasive cut saw or a hacksaw to cut springs NEVER EVER EVER EVER use a torch on springs! They are very carefully heat-treated, and the torch will ruin them.
4) Go slow! Small sections of coil removal can make big changes in ride
height. It is better to make 6 successive "too high" cuts than one big "too low" cut.
5) Take the car for a spin after every cut - not only will this reveal how you're doing on the ride quality and livability scale, it takes a little suspension cycling for the car to settle to its natural ride height - just dropping the jack and measuring will give a falsely high reading.
6) Be aware that cutting coils increases spring rate. This is to a certain extent) a good thing, as you want more rate to help keep the car from bottoming, but be aware that the ride quality will change towards the harsher side.
7) Bumpstops are not cosmetic! They are SPRINGS! They allow the OEM to use a fairly soft spring for ride, but stiffen the effective spring rate when the car rolls. Note that most OEM bumpstops these days are tapered (and so are progressive rate) You may have to shorten them somewhat, but under no circumstances should they be removed.
8) Err on the side of being conservative - being slammed in the weeds may look cool, but the real world is full of driveways, curbs, underground parking ramps, railway tracks, etc and the sound of your airdam or exhaust system scraping on the ground is not at all enjoyable. Note that Touring Cars et. al. run only on racetracks that are exceptionally smooth. Typically, a 1" drop is the maximum for real-world applications.
9) You ABSOLUTELY MUST get an alignment after any lowering. Lowering typically increases negative camber and toe. The camber won't hurt you, but excessive toe EATS TIRES, typically chewing the inside edge of the tire down to cord in a matter of weeks.
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Re: Cut Springs . . ? (97civhatch)
**** it! cut that **** man. cant go wrong with cut springs, and while youre at it unbolt the muffler and youll be set. wanna be jdm? paint dem hubcaps black and do the same with the headlights. it seems everyone is jdm now so why dont u join the bunch.
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Re: Cut Springs . . ? (Daniel)
Cutting springs to change ride height is a completely valid technique, not some "riceboy" wannabe poser thing
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Re: Cut Springs . . ? (97civhatch)
I have seen an integra on this forum before and the owner said he cut his after market springs two coils to drop it a bit and said it worked fine . I have serious "rides-like-a-boat-itis" and was wondering if i should waste another 2-300 on springs or cut the fronts to match the rear. Yes i did a search btw.
They are tokico springs by the way. heres a pic:
They are tokico springs by the way. heres a pic:
I wouldnt recommend cutting stock springs, I did and regretted it.
I must be GANGSTA