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Old 12-03-2004, 01:05 AM
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Default CTR Intake Cam Vs. ITR Intake Cam

to make a long story short.....which is better?

CTR Intake Cam Vs. ITR Intake Cam (exhaust cams identical)
Old 12-03-2004, 01:14 AM
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The CTR and newer ITR intake cam is so similar, that you probably wouldn't see a difference on a dyno, and you definately wouldn't feel a difference. The specs are almost identical.
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Default Re: CTR Intake Cam Vs. ITR Intake Cam (rodrez.)

Kew, Kew, but juss wondering...i have a source thats gonna sell meeh his brand New ITR Cams, dual valve springs, and retainers from a USDM Type R i believe...and i was wondering, but u said taht the newer ITR Cams are simalar to the CTR's...is that form a USDM R or JDM R
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cool topic, i always wanted to know about this
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Default Re: CTR Intake Cam Vs. ITR Intake Cam (rodrez.)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rodrez. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The CTR and newer ITR intake cam is so similar, that you probably wouldn't see a difference on a dyno, and you definately wouldn't feel a difference. The specs are almost identical. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i believe it is the 00-01 ITR cams that are nearly identical to CTR cams.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AzntaggeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i believe it is the 00-01 ITR cams that are nearly identical to CTR cams. </TD></TR></TABLE>
As far as listed specifications go, '00-01 ITR cams are identical to CTR cams. There is no difference.

The '97-98 ITR intake cam has a whopping 3 degress less duration @ 1mm. Whoopdeedoo.
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Default Re: CTR Intake Cam Vs. ITR Intake Cam (SA_SoLcHyLD)

sorry to kinda steal your post but would ITR cams springs, and retainers bolt into my b16a2?
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yes it'll fit juss like plug n play
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
As far as listed specifications go, '00-01 ITR cams are identical to CTR cams. There is no difference.
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That's what I used to think also.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rodrez. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That's what I used to think also. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Used to? Has anyone actually found a significant difference when measuring? All of the spec listings I have seen indicate they are the same, but I have never measured them personally to confirm.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Used to? Has anyone actually found a significant difference when measuring? All of the spec listings I have seen indicate they are the same, but I have never measured them personally to confirm.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, my motor/tranny guy measured them side by side, and the CTR had a tiny bit more duration. But like I said, it not enough to make any difference, they're almost identical. Either cam will do the same job.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rodrez. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yeah, my motor/tranny guy measured them side by side, and the CTR had a tiny bit more duration. But like I said, it not enough to make any difference, they're almost identical. Either cam will do the same job. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Interesting. Thanks for the clarification
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Interesting. Thanks for the clarification </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Default Re: CTR Intake Cam Vs. ITR Intake Cam (rodrez.)

Hit the nail on the head.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rodrez. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The CTR and newer ITR intake cam is so similar, that you probably wouldn't see a difference on a dyno, and you definately wouldn't feel a difference. The specs are almost identical. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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I remember reading an MD post on team-integra and he said that teh extra 3 degrees of duration won't make any difference on an engine with a r/s ratio like the b18c's.

One would ask why did honda bother with this upgraded cam? Seeing how they don't even claim anymore power with it on the newer itr's, i would guess that it was designed for the ctr -and they perhaps just used it on the itr to avoid making two cams. Just a thought.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One would ask why did honda bother with this upgraded cam? Seeing how they don't even claim anymore power with it on the newer itr's, i would guess that it was designed for the ctr -and they perhaps just used it on the itr to avoid making two cams. Just a thought.

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dude, read, they arent the same cam
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i've read, i've searched, i've laboured for hours on this, and the honda-tech consensus was that they are identical. Have we changed the ruling?

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Intake exhaust


Lift Duration lift Duration
Civic Type R 11.5mm 243 @ 1mm 10.5 mm 235 @ 1mm
Integra Type R 11.5 mm 240 @ 1mm 10.5 mm 235 @ 1mm

Hope this can help you out.
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Intake exhaust


Lift Duration lift Duration
Civic Type R 11.5mm 243 @ 1mm 10.5 mm 235 @ 1mm
Integra Type R 11.5 mm 240 @ 1mm 10.5 mm 235 @ 1mm

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Default Re: CTR Intake Cam Vs. ITR Intake Cam (boricuatuning)

what is the usdm exhaust cam lift and duration for a b16a2

would a ctr or itr intake and b16a2 exhaust cam combo be good?

would the a2 exhaust cam keep up???
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boricuatuning &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Intake exhaust


Lift Duration lift Duration
Civic Type R 11.5mm 243 @ 1mm 10.5 mm 235 @ 1mm
Integra Type R 11.5 mm 240 @ 1mm 10.5 mm 235 @ 1mm

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the word is, that the 2k+ itr intake cams have the extra 3 degrees of duration. You havn't specified the year of cams in your post, or your reliable source.

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