vtechicano

an yes i did a search under A/C. i have a 92 civic hatch cx. the motor i have in there now is a D15b(the dx motor). my ? is, i dont have a belt on there rite now but i bought one to put on. well the car doesnt have any freon and i wanted to know if any of you guys know if the year of my car had R12 or R134. also how can you tell if the compressor worx. ive been told that if it spins freely then its good. also when the car is on,i turn the a/c on and i hear the clicking noise,like it comes on, like on my wifes A/C. hope you guys can help me out cuz its getting hot in heeeere.

Jonathan_ED3

don't switch to 134...it never works right.

although it will WORK, it won't work like it should.

bite the bullet and spend the extra $$ for r12.

Turn on the a/c and if you can see the VERY end part of the compressor (the one with 3 little quarter looking pieces on it) start spinning, that means it's coming on.

If it comes on but the air isn't cold, you probably need freon and/or to replace the drier

If you turn on your a/c and it doesn't come on....it's probably spinning because the freon level has activated the cut off switch, or it's just a bad compressor.

vtechicano

hey thanx hot EH, do you know about how much R12 cost. ive herd its like $30-$40 per pound or something like that. about how many pounds would i need.

JDMCRX

iTrader: (2)

Hey man u can get a conversion kit for like 10 bucks and R-134a is like 6 bucks a lb just have to flush the dryer out and it will blow cold

Jonathan_ED3

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no it won't...don't spread bad info.

DO NOT CONVERT TO R134.

It's not as simple as buying one of those 10 conversion kits....those are crap.

again, do NOT make the mistake of converting thinking it's just as good.

I had my car converted PROFESSIONALLY....within a year it had ruined my compressor.

So I had to pay to get it all redone....which I should have done in the first place and saved the headache.

R12 is pretty expensive, and you're supposed to have a license to buy it.

I've got a case of it

you can buy it at http://www.autofreon.com I don't know if they ask for a license # or anything...it appears that they don't.

Nameless RB26

Like he said, don't do it. There is more to it then just swapping refrigerants... and IMO, the benefits aren't worth it. Buy the R12..

97civicdx

Dont convert the car. It doesnt get as cold as it was. I had one car converted, but converted correctly, new compressor for 134, 134 seals,.. It doesnt get as cold as when the car was r-12.
I have heard a good quote from someone. If the a/c system isnt leaking, then stick to the r-12.

If you use the r-12 compressor, it usually fails due to the higher pressures of the 134a. It will work for a while, just use like 12-60 ounces of the r-134a ref.

JDMCRX

iTrader: (2)

Spread bad info What the **** U talking about i converted my mazda i just changed the reviever dryer and converted to R134 and it blows ****** cold still works 2 years later. Converted my dads crown vic to R134 and its been year and half. So how is this bad info???

vtechicano

hey thanx guys for all the info. glad to get feedback like that. i think ill just get the R12. i dont want to do to much to the motor like buy need compressor or any thing else, since i plan on doing a swap this year, if i need anything new over $100 ill just have to suffer. thanks anyway JDMCRX.

97civicdx

Not all cars take well to this conversion. M-benzes dont. Id stick to the r-12.

minivan81

eh, I had my 93 hatch converted from R12 to R134. changed to the different oil in

the compressor (conversion kit), bought a new dryer, and shot the R134 directy in

the system with an adapter. Not as cold as before, but still does the job well.

Running cool for over a year now.

92SiB18C1

How much for a new dryer?

EG8R

Last I heard R-12 is quite illegal here in Canada.... Interesting that it is still used in the USA....

KOALA YUMMIES

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97civicdx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dont convert the car. It doesnt get as cold as it was. I had one car converted, but converted correctly, new compressor for 134, 134 seals,.. It doesnt get as cold as when the car was r-12.
I have heard a good quote from someone. If the a/c system isnt leaking, then stick to the r-12.

If you use the r-12 compressor, it usually fails due to the higher pressures of the 134a. It will work for a while, just use like 12-60 ounces of the r-134a ref.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah its not as simple as just changing the fluid or compressor. All the seals and rings need to be replaced too.

preludexl

it is illegal to make it. it is not illegal to buy or sell if you have a license. they run you about $40/lb unless you know someone who has a couple gallons worth. some junk yards might have it, it's the same shiet in refrigerators. scavengers pick them clean and sell them cheap, especially since they dont have a license to sell. my neighbor converted all his cars, he said the main trick is to make sure your seals are properly sealed so there are no leaks and the old freon is drained out completely.

CXHatchback

Yeah on my old hatch I switched to 134 and less than a year later the compressor blew out. The old compressors aren't made to take the high pressure of the new freon. Stick with r12

Jonathan_ED3

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yep, even if you do it 'properly' this still usually happens.

I don't even know why people bother with it

KRiS1

what year did they switch from R12?

Caveman74

134 is not nearly as cold as r12. Spend the bucks for the r12. Just make sure everything is sealed you don't want that **** leaking out.

KOALA YUMMIES

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Believe it was until 1993 that R12 ran (in most cars), then in 1994 it was R134a.

samdawgsol

yes 1994 R134a, 1993 below R12.

Walmart sold a conversion kit with a pould of R134a and oils with the new adaptars and the psi gauge and hose for around 30 bux.

Didnt get a chance to test it cus my condenser had holes in it from a wreck. So I relying on good ol wind through my sol to cool me off. Works pretty good except when I get out I got a giant sweat circle on my lower back, wish i had 350z ventilated seats for that.

JDMCRX

iTrader: (2)

well I know why its illegal here to reuse R-12 if u use it big fines i dunno what it is like over there in US probly diff thats why

IDriveHonda

Maybe you can try to find the parts from a newer civic that took the a/c off but that will still be a pain.

NrG

damn i always throught all honda took r134a
the only cars that i know that takes r12 are toyota.
r12 is mad expansive, i have a bottle of it somewhere, its in a can like propane.
i think my car takes r12, and the AC on that car is super cold, on hot days it blows mist in the air lol.
compair to all the AC in honda, they blow.
stick with r12, its best for the long run, and everyone is correct about the convertion kit, it blows ballz.
i remember fixing a few cars because they did this convertion.

PrOjEct CTR

was just wondering in 93 and below uses r12 and 94 and up uses r134.... my cars is a 92 si and i just bought a 94 ac dryer canister , both look exactly the same... is there a difference???some of you say to change the dryer to a r134... please help kinda confused here.... so far i have retro fitting kit, r134a compressor off a 94 dx and ac dryer canister off a 94 ex... is that all i will need ???
thanks all